OR/WA Election System Flawed: Votes Changed by Black Hatters

Zenaan Harkness zen at freedbms.net
Sun Oct 18 21:30:04 PDT 2020


On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 10:07:09PM -0400, Karl wrote:
> Can we discuss whether trump is good or bad?

"I've changed my mind about Trump -- Trump is a demi God :D"

Is the Sun good or bad?

When I'm cold, more Sun is good, and rain is bad.

When I'm hot and dry in the desert, Sun is bad, rain is good.

Good/Bad is often a false dichotomy.

What policies are good?  (E.g. reducing/eliminating certain laws, regulations, size of gov, etc.)

What freedoms are good?  (E.g. speech, gathering, travel, self defence, self medication, etc)


A little more nuance that merely black white dichotomy may (possibly) result in the possibility of a constructive outcome...



> Over here among the liberal-likes, there has been a lot of suffering.

Today many "liberals" of even a few years ago are now branded "far right conservatives".

Are you aware of this shift in "the public discourse" ?



> Like, massive harassment of people just for expressing their views.

Baseless assertion.

"Conservatives", i.e. those who support Trump, including African Americans, are being targetted by so called "social justice warrior liberals" under the banners of BLM and ANTIFA.

Bring a fact or expect a pointless handwaving cirlce straw man empty space.


> Domination of communication channels.  Overt expressions of harm
> against large groups.  People losing their lives, across the country,
> from new changes being made.  Trump does not seem anti-government at
> all, over here.

Trump is not anti government.

No one said Trump is anti government.


> I haven't heard anything good _about_ trump; just a lot of assumption
> that he's good.  _WHY_ is he good?  _WHY_ do people like him and vote
> for him???

For some of the things he has said.  If you have not listened to anything he has said, then all you have to go on is partisan opinion porn.

Do your own research if you can be bothered.  Or don't, but don't complain when the opinions of "your superiors" come across contradictory and partisan...


Good luck,



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