Part 2: Cryptography vs. Big Brother: How Math Became a Weapon Against Tyranny - YouTube

Zenaan Harkness zen at
Fri Oct 16 20:54:09 PDT 2020

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 01:43:55PM +1000, jamesd at wrote:
> On 2020-10-16 19:33, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > That won't stop this humble techno punk from having a crack at a better than Tor version of Tor, but I have no doubt that if it is sufficiently "liberating of Peer 2 Peer free speech", then the PlayStore and Apple's whatever the damn thing is called, will "be ordered" to eliminate that app from "their" stores...
> There is an inherent problem with Tor, in that it attempts to provide
> responsiveness comparable to regular IP, and this exposes it to timing
> based attacks.
> For text messages, and blog like websites, we don't actually need that
> performance.  Send all data to everyone, flood filling it usenet style,
> or if that is too much data, to everyone subscribing to a stream, flood
> fill it around usent style plus bittorrent style, so that everyone has a
> copy of everything, so when you interact with a website, it is locally
> on your computer, and your replies get flood filled back to the original
> website and everyone reading the original website, after a considerable
> delay and through many intermediaries.

This is one part/possible solution.

Statistical/hash based (part-)content distribution to $N peers may significantly reduce net wide storage requirements for example.

Those with minimal reading/ participating interests, may still want to cache $MORE if that improves the size of the haystack in which they wish to hide needles.

Different operational prefs and therefore configs etc.

> Zeronet almost does this, you can have things that function like
> websites, but it does not support things that function like blogs,
> though it could and should.

I feel confident we will solve a lot of these issues in a relatively generic way.

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