Part 2: Cryptography vs. Big Brother: How Math Became a Weapon Against Tyranny - YouTube

Karl gmkarl at
Thu Oct 15 18:31:46 PDT 2020

On 10/15/20, Zenaan Harkness <zen at> wrote:
>> The video makes it pretty clear that cypherpunks were holding the role
>> of addressing that dilemma, right inside technology.
> s/role/intention/
> Cypherpunks are supposed to hold the -intention- to benefit the lower downs/
> the people/ human rights, rather than govcorp.
> Juan's (largely correct) point is that the pudding has proved something
> close to the opposite of that intention - total take surveillance, zero
> privacy, owelling fascism racing down the pipeline to keep us all in line
> (face/retina scanning, social credit, no travel/train tickets except you
> have the chip of the beast and a "sufficiently positive" social credit
> score, for just a few examples...)

this movement from role to intention is happening in every aspect of
society as those with the ability to influence and spy alter peoples'

what's probably important here is that some technologies, when stolen
by the government, give the government more power than the people, and
some do not.

additionally, some things stimulate the government to get defensive
and out-research them, and some do not.

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