Re: Trump’s Deficits Are Racing Past Obomba’s

[Karl]

I'm thinking about what you bring up here, and considering how violence is
bad.

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 10:01 PM Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:54 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen at freedbms.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 09:42:34PM -0400, Karl wrote:
>> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:34 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen at freedbms.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 08:24:15PM -0400, Karl wrote:
>> > > > I want to try not-trump because of feminism, environmentalism,
>> community
>> > > > power (he's a rich businessman), social justice, etc.  I have
>> reasons for
>> > > > all those things too.
>> > >
>> > > Karl, to what degree do you see that "social justice" has been
>> co-opted
>> > > into destruction of (often black/minority) businesses by literally
>> burning
>> > > their buildings to the ground, hate campaigns against "Whitie", and
>> other
>> > > destructive and pointless things?
>> > >
>> >
>> > I've heard of the white thing for some years but never been exposed to
>> it
>> > myself.
>> >
>> > How do you feel when a business is burned?  As an anarchist, I feel
>> kinda
>> > happy at first.  Then I feel really sad when I think of the owner
>> > discovering it, and how they might feel.
>>
>> Well at least there's a common ground for dialog.
>>
>> Do you recall seeing the ~80 year old man beaten to the ground, nearly
>> unconscious, by the BLM / ANTIFA mob in Kenosha, when all this really old
>> guy did was try and put out the fire in his mattress store, this business
>> he had presumably spent decades running?  Can we agree that great harm was
>> done to this old man?
>>
>
> I haven't seen it; it sounds like it's really shocking and infuriating to
> see?  Same was of course true of the many people killed by the police this
> year.
>
> Zenaan, when you talk it often sounds like someone paid for it.  You don't
> contribute anything technical to this list these days.  I would like to let
> someone else speak.
>
> But you're good if you can share some emotion about it with me.
>
>
>>
>> > I don't see the word "co-opted" as appropriate, until maybe this year.
>> >
>> > I'd really like to learn your values.  Mine would simplify from the
>> > buzzwords I stated, to reducing harm that I am aware of.
>>
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