Tor, the pentagon's cyberweapon

[Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0]

On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 15:01:03 -0400
Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote:

> Yay, anonymity networks.
> 
> On 10/13/20, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 <punks at tfwno.gf> wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 14:32:53 -0400
> > Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> We were, actually, looking at the ABCs of Tor, or what do you mean?
> >
> >
> > 	I mean the facts that 1) tor is pretty useless for actual anonimity 2) tor
> 
> 1) welllll it makes you completely invisible to your neighbors and
> your isp, and very identifiable to federal agents as having something
> to hide


	you are always invisible to your neighbors unless your neighbors own your ISP. And you're not 'invisible' to your ISP anyway, see the 'fingerprinting' attacks on tor. So even at that level tor doesn't work as advertised. 


 
> > is a cyberweapon created and controlled by the pentagon. That's the ABC of
> 
> the mobile phone is a way bigger cyberweapon than tor.  agree?  disagree?


	agreed. Although retardphones are not advertised as 'anonymous', so somehow there's less fraud involved. 


> 
> > tor and you certainly WON'T learn that looking at the source code.
> 
> So, below you say
> 
> > 	if you want to know how good tor is 'technically' wise then listen to the
> > criminals who write the code
> >
> > 	https://github.com/mikeperry-tor/vanguards/blob/master/README_SECURITY.md
> >
> > 	"Tor has only basic defenses against traffic analysis at the moment."
> 
> Really, we're possibly getting at the same things.  Tor froze after
> mike perry wrote that.  It was never addressed, and they now have a
> policy against addressing it.


	right, and that 'policy' has been in place since the day tor was created.


 
> We could just address it.  It seems like obviously the thing to do, if
> you're a bored computer programmer, is to steal the good parts of the
> tor code, remove all the parts designed to make the naive governments
> trackable by the sneaky governments or whatever, and replace them with
> something transparent that welcomes improvement, no?


	and interestingly nobody has done it so far. Granted, it's not that easy. 


> 
> > 	signed mike perry - uh oh.
> 
> The information in the quote you posted is incredibly well known by
> tor users, as far as I understand.

	The information is  unknown to the vast majority of tor users, including all the tor users who use tor in 'dark markets' and end up in jail.

	Since day 0 tor has been fraudulently pushed as an 'anonymous' network while the tor developer mafia admited in their inner circles that their 'product' was shit. 
	
	And when somebody like appelbaum stopped fully toeing the party line he became a 'rapist'. Yes, that's how crass these people are.