How Do We Escape Computer Controlled Propaganda Flow

[Zenaan Harkness]

On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 05:00:03PM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2020 13:46:00 -0600
> "\\0xDynamite" <dreamingforward at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > Cryptography can
> > > > make votes unalterable, dialogue unhidable.
> > >
> > >         you need to identify people to make 'votes unalterable' - the very opposite of anonimity.
> > 
> > So which do you prefer:  accountability or anonymity?  The power goes
> > both ways.  Pick one.
> 
> 	This is the cypherpunks mailing list? Weren't cypherpunks advocates of anonimity or something? 

Also (but) empowerment of ornary folks.

It's that "epowerment of ordinary folks" which is the moral foundation to facilitate their private comms, private and anon travel etc.

Privacy for privacies sake is abstract, whereas an individual exercising his right to privacy is an act by an elector.

Systems which provide for the possibility of holding those we elect to account should be in play, as well as systems which provide for holding to account those who act in corrupt ways within our political systems, be it voting or any other individual or collective act.


So yes, how do we protect and facilitate individual rights,

but also yes, how do we hold to account those who corrupt "our political institutions", that is our group constructs (shared common delusions) of aggregated or delegated power.



> > > > Math could show clear
> > > > statistics of what influences behavior and information flow, and for
> > > > whom.
> > >
> > >         but all those things are controlled by political power. 'information flow' is controlled by US corporations at a global scale for instance.
> > 
> > No these things are not just controlled by political power.
> 
> 
> 	I mean, abstract mathematics is obviously NOT controlled by political power, but all the infrastructure clearly is. 
> 
> 	Point being, cryptography by itself will get you nowhere, AND cryptography is a pretty toxic tool in the hands of the political powers that control its practical application.

Empowerment of the political class, to the detriment or exlusion of we doplorables, is toxic, yes.

Speaking of maths and utility, some time series graphs and analysis nicely exposing vote fraud:

   "It Defies Logic": Scientist Finds Telltale Signs Of Election Fraud After Analyzing Mail-In Ballot Data
   https://www.zerohedge.com/political/it-defies-logic-scientist-finds-telltale-signs-election-fraud-after-analyzing-mail-ballot