How Do We Escape Computer Controlled Propaganda Flow

[Karl]

On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 3:22 PM \0xDynamite <dreamingforward at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > So which do you prefer:  accountability or anonymity?  The power goes
> > > both ways.  Pick one.
> >
> >         This is the cypherpunks mailing list? Weren't cypherpunks advocates of anonimity or something?
>
> Geez man, can't you pick up on it when someone's trying to teach you something?
>
> Anonymity and accountability are two contrary aims.  If you want one,
> you don't get the other.  Get it?

We were mind controlled to take over the world, but we have learned to resist.

Aims, like anonymity and accountability, are not contrary.  They all
can be accomplished together.

Casting aims as contrary was a way to reduce the power of the masses.

>
> > > >         but all those things are controlled by political power. 'information flow' is controlled by US corporations at a global scale for instance.
> > >
> > > No these things are not just controlled by political power.
> >
> >         I mean, abstract mathematics is obviously NOT controlled by political power, but all the infrastructure clearly is.
>
> No, contrary to your anarcho-punk philosophy, all power is not held in
> politics.  Much of the hardware is controlled by base economic forces
> of simply wanting to get money.  Snowden is a sheep in whistleblowe
> clothing -- his "knowledge" of seekrit powers in tech devices is
> bullshit.  There are also social forces driving things.  Unfortunately
> the powers that run the world are at level 100 or so, while the people
> are generally at LVL 20 or less, so they get mystified, used,
> confused, and paranoid.   You've fallen under it because you don't
> have mastery of the tech.  That's all.  Get a degree and become a real
> expert or learn by yourself by following paths online, like the one I
> put on hackerspaces.org (OneTruePath).  OR, get this, simply be
> respectful to other people who HAVE done this work and learn something
> from THEM.
>
> Until then, you're just a loudmouth.
>
> >         Point being, cryptography by itself will get you nowhere, AND cryptography is a pretty toxic tool in the hands of the political powers that control its practical application.
>
> Cryptography by itself *has* gotten us nowhere, because nothing we
> REALLY wanted to do required going against the law.  And what is it
> that we REALLY want to do?  (hmm, free society, creative culture,
> radical love, ....)
>
> \0xD