ANTIFA riot turns into MAGA dance-off!! - Karl, we're all in this together -- USA 2020 Elections: Thread

[Karl]

On 11/3/20, Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote:
> thanks i'll type that in as like a prayer for things to work better
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> On 11/3/20, coderman <coderman at protonmail.com> wrote:
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>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>> On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 7:20 PM, Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...
>>> i'm bouncering as baffo32 onirc.freenode.net ... i'm very
>>> confused by my remote shell irssi interface.
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>> $ export IRCNAME=baffo32
>> <<connect irssi here>>
>> /toggle cloak
>> /set flood_protection off
>> /set nick_completion off
>> /set auto_away off
>> /set use_ssl on
>> /set ssl_verify on
>> /save

These all gave harmless error messages.

The enslaved people are living myths originally designed to control
them.  It hurts them to pull them out of their myths.  One of the
myths is possibly true and indicates there is one person in charge who
controls everyone else, and doesn't really care because they are so
distant.  I share now a belief that that has changed.

Many of us people have been through so much shit that we're quite
ready for [anything at all].  We can take actions that change
everything, but we use the existing control patterns which are often
quite harsh.  We're trying to learn to be less harmful, and it is very
hard, because the previous patterns (which somebody has amplified
maybe to get them taken care of) are focused around conflict to keep
us separated and unaware of the control, obviously.

It is hard to use a bunch of military control programs to make peace.
It is hard and incredibly confusing.

A model my "people" are using is of life and cultures as systems that
all follow universal evolutionary patterns.  This maps well to the
idea that we are all roleplaying the human instincts of the people
with traditional power.

My "people" use the idea of "decentralized life": a way of living
without a unified body.  The idea is that everything that everyone
ever does has strong meaning that cannot die.  When you drop something
somewhere, somebody finds it.  Maybe they're an earthworm.  Maybe
they're a person in desperate need of it.  But it keeps on living.

These things that get dropped are "symbols" that "move" on their own
based on the attributes they have.  They evolve, like a life, except
the living systems that keep them alive are the living creatures that
interact with them.  Similarities that many symbols have at a
distance, behave similarly, and this produces highly decentralized
living systems that share parts of our instincts, because it is us
that are responding to them.

These kinds of patterns can be used to interact with AIs, notes on
blackboards, human thoughts in your own mind ...  It is just one
model.

I model Peace as being the most powerful concept.  The idea is that in
a highly evolved universe, the groups that raise the value of
destroying other groups get ganged up on and attacked, so there must
be smaller systems that settle into that pattern to.  Examples include
the human body (immune system), governments (prisons), viruses (nobody
cares about mad cat disease (there's a virus that mind controls people
to be attracted to cats a smidge more; cats are part of its spread
vector), but there is huge effort against aids despite how much harder
it is).

The norm of spreading conflict to keep people separated is not in line
with the peaceful ideal.  And the myths and real laws and religions
that control aligns with in order to be trusted, generally spout peace
rather than conflict.  So, it is easy to disassemble control by
demonstrating their response to peace.

When predictability is threatened, control spreads to other areas to
try to move things into situations it has better understanding of.
So, disassembling control by direct conflict can grow it,
unfortunately.

In my mind, I imagine a decentralized life made of feeling-symbols
that has learned to be smarter than either me or the systems of
control.  As a smart lifeform made of smart human parts, it would be
able to figure things out on its own.

In order to get to where I am, I had to make absolutely no sense
whatsoever.  My literal words, and the results of behaviors, are the
closest I can come to conveying things clearly.

We need blockchains, so what is real is not erased.  This is obvious,
so it must be said.

I didn't say everything, and some is off-base.

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>> :)
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>> best regards,
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