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On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 3:43 AM, other.arkitech <other.arkitech at protonmail.com> wrote:
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> On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 8:25 AM, Karl <gmkarl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi OA,
>> I was thinking about how there are a lot of ongoing projects working hard to solve these various problems of replacing existing network infrastructure with an improvement, keeping users safe and empowering them, etc etc.
>> There are a _lot_ of experienced software developers on these lists and many of us are kind of working in bubbles on our projects, often duplicating each others' work.
>> Would you be at all interested in moving towards sharing effort and interoperability with others, even merging codebases if a roughly identical project were going on?
> Yes I am interested on the idea.
> I like the bubble style because i think it is more efficient many times. A head, a codebase.
> Working on multiple products, (as many as devs), is the recipe for avoiding conflicts and byzantine discussions, and generating an army of competitive products.
> It is great to exchange help, work, pieces of code, etc in a "I work for your project and you work for my project" or something alike
> I'll be around : )
> A really major current effort is gnunet https://gnunet.org/ which modularizes p2p networking functions for reuse, as local services that provide them I believe. It's very powerful but very few projects are using it; setup and a verbose learning curve might be an entry barrier, unsure.
>> On Mon, May 11, 2020, 6:40 AM other.arkitech <other.arkitech at protonmail.com> wrote:
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>>> On Monday, May 11, 2020 9:56 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > I am not afraid of IP4, the resource is already scarce and their cost
>>>> > provides a good measure against attackers that are not The Man.
>>>> They have almost zero cost. Any retard can botnet hundred thousand
>>>> of computers IP and proxy them ports all back to farm of pi's / emulators.
>>>> Any govt can use all its thousands of worldwide residents
>>>> embassy and military staffs to get worldwide IP's pools without even
>>>> any sneaky attacks like abusing secret FVEY++ peers to give them
>>>> IP proxy of unused addresses from networks too.
>>>> But no, USPS cannot give user ability to overlay network exit for
>>>> help ensure their privacy, because only IPv4 is "safe" for USPS.
>>>> Bitcoin have many many privacy overlay users, even full mining nodes on
>>>> overlay for their privacy, do you see it be not "safe" for Bitcoin network,
>>>> any real incident of that, from even day one to now.
>>> This project is about solving the system:
>>> A) without PoW, which consumes too much energy and induce to centralization (network shrink) and territorial segregation forces
>>> B) without PoS, or any other Po* I've considered during my design (e.g. biased cryptoeconomy, e.g. PoS allows mining to those who have more wealth)
>>> I encourage you to find another available scarce resource that meets the criteria of being unbiased and I'll consider it to be used instead of taking advantage of the scarcity of IPv4 addresses.
>>> Additionally, all criticism towards USPS related to anonymity goes to a proper overlay layer compatible with such rule.
>>> Tor is not valid because is unable to apply the limiting rule.
>>> I'll either propose a patch to Tor or develop an anonymity layer in the future, near or far, depending on the priorities of every stage of the project.
>>> Hope it serves.
>>>> > I am not scares about Govs too, since they haven't moved a finger yet
>>>> > against bitcoin, even though they can.
>>>> And if they do this network blocking of BTC and USPS, which will going
>>>> to still be transact... only those on the overlays... which means BTC win
>>>> USPS die, because USPS not allow user to use privacy overlay.
>>>> > The public protocol do not need to be encrypted neither in Bitcoin not in
>>>> > USPS. USPS is running encrypted today though. The fact that Tx or consensus
>>>> > protocol goes in clear doesn't affect the pseudaanonymity nor the privacy.
>>>> ??? Move to Thailand / China / wherever / everywhere that spies your
>>>> network wire, builds nice big databases of everything you do on it, use
>>>> Bitcoin to pay a cleartext tx from your photo ID IPv4 node physical address
>>>> and Bitcoin address, to cleartext to some online market known Bitcoin
>>>> address for some weed, or tx/rx a hello Tiananmen 1989 65 in blockchain
>>>> message data field. Your ass is going to jail, be in database, for long time.
>>>> In general, all coins should be encrypted and network overlay-able.
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