Coronavirus: Thread

Zig the N.g ziggerjoe at
Mon May 18 04:20:47 PDT 2020

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 08:03:49PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 02:59:04AM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Now begins the grand effort, on display in thousands of articles and
> > news broadcasts daily, somehow to normalize the lockdown and all its
> > destruction of the last two months. We didn’t lock down almost the
> > entire country in 1968/69, 1957, or 1949-1952, or even during 1918.
> > But in a terrifying few days in March 2020, it happened to all of us,
> > causing an avalanche of social, cultural, and economic destruction
> > that will ring through the ages.
> > There was nothing normal about it all. We’ll be trying to figure out
> > what happened to us for decades hence.
> Nothing complicated.
> A decision was made on high (Lords temporal) to run this drill.
> And arguably a quite reasonable thing to do in the face of the scientific research China has been conducting for years, to great concern of some international scientists, -and- its prior SARS mess, and then China shuts down Wuhan (the city, -and- the lab), burns all the records, orders all Chinese scientists to consult the CCP before publishing ANYthing related to the virus going forward (this was around January from memory), and bars anyone from outside to investigate, and the leaks out of the heavily censored Chinese social media and and and ....
> This series of facts naturally leads the marginally cautious amongst us to consider there might be at least some wisdom in taking precautionary measures.
> And then the circus began, as we're left with various 'authorities' at all different levels all over the world (national, state, local, medical, scientific, political, police, military), including commercial leaches such as Bill Gates, all making their own decisions, with some first worried they're "not going far enough", and some later worrying "have we gone too far" and or "should we still be concerned" - facts and the assessment thereof are literally very challenging for low IQ individuals, so we should have at least a little empathy :)
> It's arguably impressive that the result wasn't a far greater gluster fsck than it has been so far... humans being human and all.
> > How did a temporary plan to preserve hospital capacity turn into
> > two-to-three months of near-universal house arrest that ended up
> > causing worker furloughs at 256 hospitals, a stoppage of international
> > travel, a 40% job loss among people earning less than $40K per year,
> > devastation of every economic sector, mass confusion and
> > demoralization, a complete ignoring of all fundamental rights and
> > liberties, not to mention the mass confiscation of private property
> > with forced closures of millions of businesses?
> > Whatever the answer, it’s got to be a bizarre tale...
> No, just money.  Simple is as simple is.
> What China -should- have done was go against their thick face instincts and just been totally open about what happened at their Wuhan lab, what was happening in Wuhan, and publicise their documents and research properly so we could investigate the true death rates etc rather than snigger at their farcical geometric (and not exponential) "death curve" - great movie title by the way:
>    <sinister musak>
>    Be still.
>    Listen to your blood as .. the sound of death .. rises .. from ..
>    <sinister musical crescendo>
>       The  P4-Lab  Death  Curve

At's hysterical, muh grits:

   Can't Make This Up: Beijing Begins Construction Of A P-3 Biolab

      .. one would think that China would do everything in its power to defuse one of the core accusations by the Trump administration, namely that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) in China was the source of the global coronavirus pandemic

      .. Well, one would be wrong, because in a "completely unexpected" twist - assuming China was indeed telling the truth and that the WIV had nothing to do with the original viral release - on Friday, a senior Chinese official confirmed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s allegation that Beijing had told labs in the country to destroy coronavirus samples in early January.

      Recall that in a May 6 press briefing, Pompeo accused China of covering up the Covid-19 outbreak as it emerged in the central city of Wuhan, saying China’s National Health Commission had ordered destruction of samples of the virus on Jan. 3.

      Asked about those comments at a press briefing in Beijing on Friday, NHC official Liu Dengfeng confirmed that the commission had issued these guidelines at that time "for pandemic prevention and control, which also played an important role in preventing biosafety risks."

      .. but wait a gosh darned minute? According to Dengfeng, China is basically admitting that the coronavirus samples - which were held in China's P-4 rated, top "biosafety" lab in Wuhan which incidentally is also where the virus was leaked from according to a mountain of circumstantial evidence - were not safe in the Wuhan lab and thus had to be destroyed?

      .. So .. what does China do? Why it plans to build an entirely new biolab, only this time not in the industrial backwater of Wuhan, but in the capital itself.

      According to the Global Times, China's capital Beijing will build its own, P-3 rated laboratory "to improve and explore infectious disease detection capacity" Lei Haichao, director of Beijing Municipal Health Commission, said at a press conference on Sunday, Chinanews reported.

      There is no P-3 laboratory in Beijing now, while the nation's only P-4 lab - which as a reminder  is the highest level of biosafety precautions, and is appropriate for work with "agents that could easily be aerosol-transmitted within the laboratory and cause severe to fatal disease in humans for which there are no available vaccines or treatments" - remains in Wuhan.


In other words, it is time to prep up for that 2nd wave :D

Don't laugh too hard - at's a lotta bat soup will no longer be eat!

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