[OT, but curious] bye bye, 5G...

Mirimir mirimir at riseup.net
Sun Jun 28 17:51:07 PDT 2020

On 06/28/2020 01:06 AM, Punk-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 23:31:32 -0700
> Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> wrote:
>> Well, it's a different type of virus. And it may well be one where
>> immunity after infection and recovery doesn't last very long, and where
>> vaccines won't work. 
> 	That's just...fear mongering propaganda =) - X 'may' be Y...Pigs 'may' fly if you throw them off a rooftop, etc. 

There's ~zero doubt that pigs can't fly. But the length of immunity
after recovery from COVID-19 is clearly an open question. If for no
other reason than having just several months of data. And we won't
likely have a useful answer until 2022.

>> If that's the case, it could be a fuckload worse
>> than another kind of flu. But ask me again next year this time.
> 	Next year two things may happen. Either the flu will be again misrepresented as some horrible pest that 'could' exterminate the human race...or it won't, and the flu PSYOP will be replaced by some New And Improved PSYOP.

It's not a type of influenza. The common cold is generally caused
coronaviruses and rhinoviruses. So if anything, COVID-19 is basically a
bad cold ;)

>>> And even if that were the case, it's just how the natural world works. There are ups and downs. 
>> I do agree with that. And one aspect of "how the natural world works" is
>> that monocultures are vulnerable to decimation by pathogens. So COVID-19
>> is just a natural response to human overpopulation. 
> 	That's assuming that humans are a monoculture which I don't think they are, 

>From the perspective of a virus, they pretty much are. However, it's
likely that some populations are more susceptible than others, so it's
not as extreme as bananas (clones) or even typical agricultural crops.

> although no doubt govcorp is working hard on making everbody a mass produced robot. 

Yeah, no doubt.

> 	But again you're assuming that the flu is some kind of terrible pest although the plain facts show that's not the case. As to overpopulation, that's more a matter of opinion than fact. I  don't mean to defend the current consumerist 'culture' but I don't think it's necessarily close to breaking point yet (sadly).

Again, it's not influenza. And about overpopulation, many do think that
we're close to the breaking point. But whatever, it's pointless to argue
about it on this list.

>> And there's no
>> reason to think that there won't be more. The rate of zoonotic disease
>> outbreaks has increased about five fold in recent decades.
> 	...yeah the subhuman chinese eat raw bats =)

Indeed, that's one aspect. SARS and COVID-19 came from Chinese eating
bats. Ebola came from Africans eating bushmeat: bats (ebola) and
nonhuman primates (HIV). MERS came from camels in Saudi Arabia, and
perhaps originally from bats. So yeah, gotta watch out for bats.

>>> 	exactly like the always since there living things appeared on earth. Old and sick people die. Of anything. See how fucking insane - and ridiculous the charade is?
>> Well, being so old, I'd rather not be surrounded by people infected with
>> COVID-19. And fortunately, I live in an area with very few of them.
> 	You can isolate yourself however you see fit. But voluntary quarantine is obviously NOT what this is about. 

I also isolate myself from the cesspool of popular culture :)

>>> 	The obvious objective of the charade is to thighten controls over...everything. 
>> It does seem that way, doesn't it? Opportunism seems more likely than
>> conspiracy, but you could be right.
> 	Most of the conspiracy I see here is that it's possible for govcorp to tell a blatant lie and the serfs just go along with it. 

Yes, sadly enough.

> 	Technofascism and 'science' worship come into play because the typical product of public 'education' who believes in the 'progress' of technology also believes whatever the 'scientists' say. So it's quite easy for govcorp to pretend that some strain of the flu is the New Biological Apocalypsis. And yet...

I am a hardcore materialist, and I do consider the scientific method to
be the best approach for understanding stuff. I'd rather be a god than
worship one (or a goddess). So variation and selection are my deities.

> 	"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_error
> 	Globally, it is estimated that 142,000 people died in 2013 from adverse effects of medical treatment; this is an increase from 94,000 in 1990.[1] However, a 2016 study of the number of deaths that were a result of medical error in the U.S. placed the yearly death rate in the U.S. alone at 251,454 deaths, which suggests that the 2013 global estimation may not be accurate."

That's for sure a serious issue. But that's about physicians, and they
are not at all scientists. They're more like witch doctors.

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