what is "Herd Immunity"?

Mirimir mirimir at riseup.net
Fri Jul 31 22:33:58 PDT 2020

On 07/31/2020 09:25 PM, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2020 19:14:24 -0700
> Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> wrote:
>> I'm mocking the idea that anarchy is workable for the existing
>> population, generally. 
> 	so who the fuck you think are? =) 
> 	Oh yes, you're an enlightened elitist who thinks he's way above the 'existing population', though not in moral terms of course, because he's an 'utilitarian'.

I'm fundamentally a hedonist, in that having fun is my major goal in
life. But yes, I'm utilitarian. And a scientist.

I didn't say "above". Indeed, I'm among the least community minded here.
Right on the edge. It's just that I'm such a charming guy ;)

>> However, it's a hugely self-selected community, with an explicit social
>> contract, and members who don't play well get shunned and booted. I
>> really don't think that such a community would work for random sheeple.
> 	So that's your argument against personal rights eh. Wait, your little community tale, whether real or imaginary, is not an argument. Then again, utilitarianism is even less of an argument. 

There's no right to be a member of a voluntary organization.

>> So what's your path to anarchy? Love? Education? Kill the assholes?
> 	That's not the subject at hand. 

Who are you to define the "subject at hand"?

And it's a simple question, no? If you don't have an answer, I guess
that I default to mocking you for being uselessly dogmatic.

>>> 	STILL, if people on this list were actually 'cypherpunks', instead of techno-fascist posers, then your comment would be as out of place as it should be. 
>> There are no rules here, my friend :)
> 	Of course there are rules. Basic logical rules. The pertinent rule in this case being :  if you're not an anarchist, then you're not a cypherpunk, so what are you doing here? 

So you say.

> 	And just in case I need to spell out the painfully obvious. That's not a 'rule' to be 'enforced' by some 'owner' of some 'server'.
> 	So tell me, what do you think about the demographics of the flu farce in germany? What's your opinion as Englightened Science Worshipper? Do you want more thermal cameras like our Agent Jim Bell? Here, some basic arithmetic :

I don't much care. We won't know how it will go for a year or two. It
could go away, or it could get worse, or another one could come along.
But human technological society is doomed, one way or another.

> 	https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2020-July/081633.html

Being over 70, I'd rather not be surrounded by masses of infected
idiots. And damn, I'm glad that I don't live in Texas or California. Or
the South, generally. However, I do see the logic of letting old folks
die, and trashing the economy less. But then, a trashed economy releases
less CO2, so maybe that's a good thing.

So overall, I don't care much.

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