Foundations for Action

Karl gmkarl at
Sat Jul 25 12:23:28 PDT 2020

Zenaan, it sounds like you are interested in talking, which is so wonderful.

Could you trim it down into a few sentences for us confused people?

What do you need from those among us available to reply?



There is proof inside many peoples' electronics.  Proof that a marketing
group would contract development of a frightening virus.  A virus that
responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what
people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en
masse, for profit.

On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 1:14 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen at> wrote:

> For those who missed the memo, we're in a conversation.
> Right now in the West this is a community wide conversation as we face
> certain critical junctures in history.
> It is not only poignant and important but literally game changing, and an
> urgent last minute call to higher principles.  For example Kek's meme army
> memed "the orange man" into the presidency (along with a lot of prayer from
> those who pray, and certain great sacrifices).
> Feel free to join this conversation - we will share the outcome, either
> chaos and rapid destruction, or a steady recovery and rebuild of
> relationships.  Breaking habits can be tough, with withdrawals, headaches,
> occasional relapses and drying out periods, but with a stern father figure
> and guiding hand (Putin) we can get through this; we must!
> Let's also remind ourselves that we are all human.
> Where possible in this conversation try to help your "opponent" to
> understand his own words when your "Stupid O Meter" highlights for you how
> stupid his words are; consider responding with a sentence beginning with
> "Did you mean ..." or "Are you trying to say that ..."
> It is convenient to use the "royal we" that is to use "we" (or "our" etc)
> to refer to either our whole community or any subset - if the true meaning
> is unclear to you, that's an opportunity to join the convo and ask for
> clarification.  When the royal "we" is used, it often is not meant to imply
> that the writer is necessarily included in the group referred to.
> Example 1: Pragmatism
> -----------------------
> Pragmatism has its place, but it often has its price!
> Pragmatism is in many circumstances a reasonable "default fallback", e.g.
> when in doubt.
> Pragmatism also appears to be the dominant old school modality for our
> trusted deep state allies - yes, we use the word "trusted" in a generous
> way as not only a figure of speech, but as a prayer for a future for our
> children of peace between nations; let's call it a pragmatic choice :)
> The problem with pragmatism is its limits - without the higher guiding
> principles, "pragmatism" justifies torture, murder, and for example the
> revolving turnstyle in Iran of regime change de-installing one leader and
> system for another, followed by later de-installing your new "puppet" and
> re-installing the old, just to later turn around and do it all again in
> repeated reversing repetition; and the obvious result is a cluster-check of
> distrust, instability, international condemnation, and generally fear.  All
> in the name of pragmatism.  And this has of course been repeated all over
> the place including Iraq, Turkey and Libya.
> Given the West's regime change antics, it is no wonder we are on the
> precipice of the same sword.  The will to use evil on another, justifies
> that evil befalling ourselves - karma or "do unto others that which you
> would have them do unto you".
> Despotic pragmatism has so universally dominated the CIA that the CIA's
> present Director Gina Haspel has reportedly engaged in / authorized /
> upheld / publicly supported, torture (named by the despotic euphemism
> "enhanced interrogation techniques").  One wonders what happened to Ms
> Haspel in her younger years…
> Torture must be forever taken off the table, and publicly renounced,
> unambiguously, and permanently.
> The Western regime is on the precipice of destruction.  We must repent of
> our evils.  We must cast evil from our "toolbox" of foundations for
> action.  We must stop justifying all manner of evils as the means to reach
> "the 'good' ends".
> For starters, "our deep state buddies" must actually renounce, and
> actually refrain from, certain evils including:
>    - torture
>    - extrajudicial killing aka murder
>    - violent regime change of client (or "enemy") states
> (Feel free to add other evils which we must cast from the West!)
> Without actually renouncing, denouncing and refraining from, torture (for
> one example), no mandate from heaven can be in operation (duh!) and instead
> the wrath of heaven must descend, and if that's hard to understand, pray
> you be guided as to why righteous humans would uphold, or destroy, a nation.
> If "you" (CIA, FBI, employees, etc) struggle to find righteous foundations
> for action within yourself or within your department, you are in urgent
> need of crowdsourcing some righteousness immediately!  Achieving that might
> mean a public dialog of some sort, possibly whistleblowing, or perhaps
> something else, but at this point in history we cannot afford to fail on
> such basic moral/spiritual principles; act accordingly.
> Some have paid a very high, yet honourable price, their lives: from Seth
> Rich to the Donbass region for example, and to honour their sacrifices we
> must do more than carry on as before, we must instead lift our game, live a
> higher ethic, do all that we can to atone for such evils and to bring forth
> righteousness.
> Example 2: Russia blaming
> ---------------------------
> There is not much that is more insulting to the plain thinking man than
> years of ridiculous "Russia blaming" and hoaxing.
> Not only is it the most blunt tool in the clown box, it is undignified,
> demeaning, spreading of lies and falsehoods, and from a diplomatic
> perspective, hands over a continual stream of wins to our "Russkie
> brothers", which come to think of it is not such a bad thing - for them :/
> But remember this my fellow doofuses: every time you dump on Russia, you
> have given up, lost and foresaken another opportunity for someone in the
> West (someone of at least nominal authority) to put forth humility, to put
> forth dignity, to begin the process of ownership and cleansing and
> therefore the redemption and healing that the West so desperately needs.
> We cannot afford, politically OR spiritually, to continue spitting on such
> opportunities for redemption.
> If you can't immediately find some politician sufficiently non-compromised
> to take the public soap box for Western dignity and redemption, then get to
> work and find someone, make someone or mold someone, and while you're at
> it, turf those who are compromised to the wolves; it's a funny thing about
> demons, once the righteous start to speak publicly, there's a point at
> which the demons turn on one another and devour one another (mostly
> figuratively) and at that point our job of catalyzing redemption is almost
> done.
> Example 3: Domination and client states
> -----------------------------------------
> The old testament is "an eye for an eye", the zero sum resource game, "I
> want the word plus 5%" aka usury and cyclical chaos.
> The new testament is the Star Trek economy, awesome abundance, discernment
> and discrimination with appropriately placed (+ neither naieve nor foolish)
> forgiveness, e.g. of certain debts (once again, Putin has lead the way on
> this blindingly simple tool).
> Domination and "client state regime change" is founded in the Old
> Testament of fear, wrath, war, and the deception of "power as the highest
> principle".
> Abundance demands trust in others, even some faith (OMG, shawk!), and
> admits of healthy group dynamics from nationalism, to vertical integration
> at every level, to cooperation and bilateral agreements.
> We are creative, and given at least half a chance we shall bring forth
> even more abundance and more delights, more joy.
> Notes:
> With the recent Russian referendum and the probability of Putin being
> elected for two additional terms, we in the West have been granted a small
> yet greatly needed breathing space - IF we use it wisely!  We must NOT take
> November for granted.
> We EACH play a role, no matter how small; do your bit to lift up another
> this day, to ease the burden, to remind that we must live better, in truth,
> in dignity, in righteousness.  It's easy to understand, and it's actually
> pretty easy to do - a little bit here, tiny bit there and we're rolling
> together in the healthy direction.
> Let's create our shared world.
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