Political theory/ ideology - foundations
zen at freedbms.net
Sat Jul 18 06:37:38 PDT 2020
On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 10:30:54PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 07:18:48PM -0300, Punk-BatSoup-Stasi 2.0 wrote:
> > > On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 21:59:10 +0000
> > > таракан <cryptoanalyzers at protonmail.com> wrote:
> > > > ... [ideology?] ...
> > > so going back to your comments on ideology, notice how cypherpunks are just technocrats whose main interest is 'technology', not freedom.
> > Freedom is a great foundation for any ideology worth embracing.
> > We need (?may be) an antidote to gen-me's "yes, freedom is my right to live a 100% self centered nihilistic selfish existence", since when the majority of fertile females just ride the cock carousel, we end up with very low fertility and rapidly declining population (masking the oligarchy's infiniggimmigration).
> > For a leg up on the ontological/epistemological foundations of any political theory, Dugin might be half a start to thought and/or discussion:
> > Fourth Political Theory: shortest presentation
> > https://www.geopolitica.ru/en/article/fourth-political-theory-shortest-presentation
> > [Heady, but a comprehensive overview to kick off with - only half way through here and had to take a break; resonating so far with the fundamental of the fact of "being" (sort of like existence, but more about meta awareness - reminds of the logical conclusion of the 'primary unit of authority' yet to meaningfully reach 'the individual' (in our politics at least)).]
> > Fact: I exist.
> > Fact: By virtue of my existence, I am with the right to continue to exist, the right to do those things necessary to perpetuate my existence (grow and hervest plants, farm animals, collect water, build shelter, travel, trade).
> > Fact: I am with existence, awareness, intention, will, mind, body, spirit, emotions, desires, fears, abilities and surely more...
> > Fact: I am with awareness to the degree that I am aware; awareness is an individual experience; the experience of awareness may be vastly different for different individuals.
> > Fact: I am able to en-vision; by this capacity, with will and action, I may create, and I am with the right to create that which I choose to create.
> This is apropos, from another Dugin piece, could have been written by Juan :) :
> The War on Russia in Its Ideological Dimension
> .. The only freedom of choice in the kingdom of global liberalism
> is that between Right liberalism, Left liberalism or radical
> liberalism, including far-Right liberalism, far-Left liberalism and
> extremely radical liberalism. As a consequence, liberalism has been
> installed as the operational system of Western civilization and of
> all other societies that find themselves in the zone of Western
> influence. It has become the common denominator for any politically
> correct discourse, and the distinguishing mark which determines who
> is accepted by mainstream politics and who is marginalized and
> rejected. Conventional wisdom itself became liberal. ...
The reference to Dugin popped up in a classic Pepe Escobar piece,
which would be almost criminal to fail to mention:
Escobar: Turkey & The Clash Of Civilizations
Pepe Escobar via The Asia Times,
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