The threat of privacy

[Karl]

Zenaan leaked a mafia secret here.  It's evidence by how he has moved some
of the ongoing references we've been exchanging.

Community disruption and political fragmentation: you are not welcome here.

K

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There is proof inside many peoples' electronics.  Proof that a marketing
group would contract development of a frightening virus.  A virus that
responds to peoples' keystrokes and browsing habits, and changes what
people see on their devices.  A virus that alters political behavior en
masse, for profit.

On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 4:30 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen at freedbms.net> wrote:

> It is a good thing (good for peace) that the Fed is realising that its
> subjects have a fundamental right to participate in the Fed's financial
> system.
>
> Besides their idiotic "wanna be" mentality of chasing "app" windmills and
> wanting to "blockchain up" which will slow them down more than any Demonrat
> politician ever could.
>
> To state the obvious, the Fed is essentially all existing brick and
> mortar, actual physical banks, and almost everyone on this planet has a
> bank account and there's no ridiculously power consuming and hopelessly
> inefficient blockchain in the way.
>
> You know that's a "funny" thing about MOTUs - they have essentially the
> whole world at their command (literally just an executive order away), and
> they don't properly realise it, they think there is some greener pasture,
> when they already IN the greenest pasture! Owning the whole damn pasture,
> but nope "there must be greener pasture".
>
> Idiots.
>
> We saw the same stupidity dynamic in action with their focus on the hidden
> (underground) satanic underbelly of China, when all along "they" (i.e. the
> Western empire) had full possession and enjoyment of Australia, the actual
> greatest and wealthiest country in the world, and due to that firetrucking
> myopia, they allowed over 30% of our farmland to be sold down the drain to
> China (whilst we cannot buy a single matchbox of Chinese land!) - and the %
> has surely only gone up since a few years back, too!
>
> If we had the death penalty here in Aus, Victoria's premier Daniel Andrews
> would be up for literal treason, and the people would bay for his blood.
>
> Putin was flabberghasted and rightly admonished "our Western" stupidity in
> its endless self destructive forms when he asked "Do you realise what you
> have done now?" and said later the West have "made a monumental mistake"
> (with respect to deploying the currency sanction, not merely the threat).
>
> Oligarchs hey .. some of them are certainly little more than glorified
> Frank Spencers from "Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em".
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 05:49:41AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> > It is a human right to participate in any financial system imposed /
> instituted upon us.
> >
> > We have the right to financial agency.
> >
> > Participation in our community requires that we have the right to
> participate in the financial system of the day.
> >
> > Privacy is another fundamental human right.
> >
> > Folks need to live their human rights.
> >
> > Use it or lose it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 03, 2020 at 12:01:20PM -0400, John Young wrote:
> > > Good stuff. Thanks.
> > >
> > > Reminds that cryptography has led to the loss of privacy by tagging
> crypto
> > > users, coders, rebels!, promoters, investors. So too cryptocurrency,
> the
> > > Internet, anonymizers, TOR, drop boxes, secure drops, Signal,
> Telegram, burst
> > > transmissions, privacy policies, pro-encryption advocates, comsec
> wizards, the
> > > array of promissories one by one gobbling gullible adopters urged on
> by lists
> > > like this and social media, MSM. financial greeders, hackers, leak
> sites,
> > > turncoats needing pensions.
> > >
> > > To be sure, "cash' the imaginaire of economists, is not the same as
> paper
> > > money which can also be tracked by human residue, transactional spoors,
> > > aggrieved victims, informers, world bank scholars under contract to
> finger
> > > malefactors, family members eager to payback those who fucked them,
> dear Mary
> > > tell what you know.
> > >
> > > At 10:38 AM 8/3/2020, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> http://www.kahnfrance.com/cmk/The%20threat%20of%20privacy%20distribution%20version.pdf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Threat of Privacy
> > > > By Charles M. Kahn1
> > > >
> > > > Like artists, we academics want to believe that if one of our works
> > > > doesn’t get enough attention it’s because we’re ahead of our time.
> > > > I’d like to pretend that everything I’ve written is pathbreaking, and
> > > > will eventually be recognized for its true importance. But I have to
> admit
> > > > that there are really only a couple of cases where I can say with
> > > > hindsight that something I wrote has been ahead of its time.
> > > >
> > > > One of them2 is a paper written with Jamie McAndrews and Will
> Roberds,
> > > > published in 2005, and titled “Money is Privacy.” We wrote it partly
> > > > as a response to Narayana Kocherlakota’s famous paper “Money is
> > > > Memory,” which could be taken as arguing that cash is essentially a
> > > > record‐keeping device, tracking who was a net creditor and who a net
> > > > debtor to society with respect to resources provided or consumed. The
> > > > implication was that if it became easy to keep credit records
> directly,
> > > > cash could wither away.
> > > > In our paper we argued instead that a key role of cash was its
> ability to
> > > > protect the purchaser’s identity. So we predicted that, even while
> the
> > > > reductions in costs of record keeping and increases in the speed of
> data
> > > > transmission were expanding the usage of credit‐ and
> > > > deposit‐account‐ based payments arrangements, cash would survive.
> > > > Because the desire for privacy would always generate demand for
> cash, it
> > > > would be a mistake—and ultimately futile—to attempt to abolish it.
> At the
> > > > te time, people were attuned to many of the problems of privacy, but
> there
> > > > had not yet been a clear recognized link between the value of
> privacy and
> > > > the role of payments systems. (Remember, bitcoin was only released in
> > > > 2009).
> > > >
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1 Keynote address at “Financial Market Infrastructure Conference II:
> New
> > > > Thinking in a New Era” at De Nederlandsche Bank, Amsterdam, 7‐8 June
> > > > 2017.
> > > > 2 The other was my dissertation, back in 1980. It was on liquidity
> and the
> > > > pricing of illiquid assets. At that time, no one thought this was an
> > > > important issue in finance: financial markets were liquid; everybody
> > > > “knew” that. So the work went nowhere. Oh well.
> > >
> > >
>
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