Video chat software / options

[Kurt Buff - GSEC, GCIH]

I've been seeing Jitsi mentioned a fair amount - don't know anything about
it, beyond what you'll see here:

https://jitsi.org/

Kurt

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 12:32 PM Douglas Lucas <dal at riseup.net> wrote:

> Hey cypherpunks,
>
> So what video chat options are there that are less privacy violating and
> social graphing than Zoom, Skype, etc, while still being at least
> somewhat available to the everyday user? Imagine two use cases:
>
> 1. Audiovideo chat between Alice and Bob: they want to watch an online
> movie together whether by sharing a screen or some other method, and
> then have sexy times later by same audiovideo chat. Imagine further that
> Bob uses Linux laptop and knows more or less what he's doing, while
> Alice uses Windows or Apple or her standard-issue smartphone or w/e and
> doesn't want to spend her little weekend time off paidwork trying to
> configure stuff to meet some faraway incel's expectation of flawless
> fantasy security.
>
> 2. A video panel or Q&A being hosted by your local friendly anarchist
> bookstore. Maybe it needs 3-5 people on a panel talking, their famous
> faces visible on the screen along with their audio while they debate
> each on internecine leftist conflicts that distract from far more
> rational propaganda of the deed, while the 20 people in the audience,
> including people of all sorts of demographics who have a hard enough
> time paying their bills online, have their audio and video forcibly off
> so there's not random beeps and bloops and toddler singing during the
> panel, but the audience could still type in Q&A questions or whatever.
> It would also be cool if there was a film screening option -- imagine an
> anarchist bookstore that prior to covid19 had been doing weekly film
> screenings offline in their brick and mortar location, but now wants to
> do something similar online, while making it hopefully accessible for
> people without intense computer skills.
>
> How are Signal and Wire for the above?
>
> My big picture understanding has for a long time been that, 1. perfect
> security is snake oil, the top spy agencies can crack anything if they
> want given enough time and targetting interest, but that's not typically
> relevant to the above use cases unless you're a Supreme Court justice or
> an incel fantasizing about being James Bond, 2. encryption makes data
> packet size much bigger, and large data size is already a problem with
> video in cleartext, so there never has been a really good solution to
> this problem. However #2 was my understanding as of like 5 years ago, so
> I'm curious if some new solution has come out.
>
> It looks like EFF is fairly useless and using Zoom themselves. I suppose
> if they're not gonna go after something meaningful, like how the
> corporate voting gear in the US is closed source, they have to spend
> that sweet Papa Omidyar cash and prestige somehow and produce little
> guides about how to toggle your Zoom settings. Afte
>
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/what-you-should-know-about-online-tools-during-covid-19-crisis
> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/cc-backgrounds-video-calls-eff
> https://ssd.eff.org/
>
> Guides by Riseup Networks don't have much on video understandably
> https://riseup.net/en/security/resources
> https://riseup.net/en/security
>
> Prism Break mentions something called Jami I've never heard of
> https://prism-break.org/en/all/
>
> And yeah, Signal and Wire...? I know everything is fucked but using
> something less bad for the use cases outlined above seems better than
> diving headfirst into whatever the worst popular solutions are.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Doug
>
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