[liberationtech] Social media for social good in Taiwan

grarpamp grarpamp at gmail.com
Wed Nov 27 15:06:53 PST 2019


> https://www.wired.co.uk/article/taiwan-democracy-social-media
>
> Their answer to the government’s request was to create a new kind of
> political process. They wanted to allow citizens to not only vote on
> questions posed by the government, but also control what questions were
> asked in the first place. And they wanted these questions to be
> based on attitudes held in common across Taiwanese society
> rather than on its divisions.
> They called the process vTaiwan

"Votes on vTaiwan are aggregated to show clusters of consensus"
"The outcomes of the vTaiwan have been put in front of Parliament,
by government, to form the core of 11 pieces of laws and regulation"

So if there is "consensus" "majority" "vote" etc to murder you,
or for you to do something or some act, to perform in some
manner that the "consensus" wishes, to "conform", to live think
believe or be "social" in some way, whatever that thing or performance
or else may be, and where your choice to not do such does not
impart harm upon another person... then you will ultimately face
their increasing immoral sanction, their own "process" their "laws"
which they have "enacted" over you without your signed consent,
up to and including death for resisting such sanction... all for
doing no harm to anyone.

> rather than on its divisions.

And what is a form of "division" but perhaps an independant means
and position from which people may then begin to identify things
in the "common" that should change, or may then perhaps even
secede from, lest the common stamp out division thus artfully
leaving any of its problems in place.


Liberation and its tech, should "consensus" around achieving
actual liberty in common with a non aggression principle,
modelling such efforts into itself, instead of providing yet another
newspeak and mechanism for such "parliamentary" towers
of unequal centralized power as below to continue in perpetuity
the exertion of immoral force upon harmless peoples who
have done no harm.

> "Those digital democracy platforms don’t have any kind
> of real authority,” says Taiwanese parliamentarian Karen Yu.
> "“Legislators still have more power"


> Social media has opened up vast social divisions and brought democracy to its knees.
> Taiwan is making democracy work again.

Such falls, and hacking away at the same thing, time and
permutation again, over thousands of years trying to get
it to work, should tell you that it is fundamentally broken,
and that you need to throw it out and try something completely
different that has never been seriously, let alone casually,
or even at all, tried before.

> the people are fighting back

The vast are fighting for something... maybe something
they know inside (say... no force, no harm) but have difficulty
articulating, or finding completely different models to form
around, maybe because those models are excluded and
book banned from schools "voted' curriculum, demonetized
downranked and censored off YouTube and Facebook and
Google, and generally suppressed by such towers above.

It's no wonder they're stuck with the same problems "again".


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