Scientists Accidentally Recreate Big Bang Detonation in the Lab

[John Newman]

On November 6, 2019 5:56:45 AM UTC, "Punk - Stasi 2.0" <punks at tfwno.gf> wrote:
>On Wed, 06 Nov 2019 04:57:56 +0000
>John Newman <jnn at synfin.org> wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> On November 6, 2019 4:27:06 AM UTC, "Punk - Stasi 2.0"
><punks at tfwno.gf> wrote:
>> >On Wed, 06 Nov 2019 03:31:29 +0000
>> >John Newman <jnn at synfin.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On November 5, 2019 10:41:28 PM UTC, "Punk - Stasi 2.0"
>> ><punks at tfwno.gf> wrote:
>> >> >too bad there was no 'big bang explosion' - that's pseudo
>> >> >scientific garbage from the jew-kristian creationists who have
>> >merely
>> >> >repackaged their creationist bullshit.
>> >> 
>> >> Wait, you don't believe in the standard model of physics?
>> >
>> >	wait, you believe the ridiculous big bang bullshit, which, I should
>> >have added, comes from a fucking CATHOLIC PRIEST? =) 
>> 
>> If Lemaitre hadn't noticed it, someone else would've.  The big bang
>theory is
>> a result of observations of our expanding, 
>
>
>	Expanding? So where's the center of the universe, the place where the
>'big bang' started? 
>
>
>> red-shifted universe. All sorts of 
>> observations back up the general idea, e.g. cosmic background
>radiation.
>> 
>> 
>> Do I believe that the universe actually started from a literal "big
>bang"?  I have 
>> no idea, it seems odd. What was there before the big bang? 
>
>	Yeah. And all the insane amounts of matter that can be seen in the
>universe were compressed in a single point? Boy. It seems to me that
>believing that takes even more faith than believing in the bible...
>
>	I imagine you know who alexander shulgin was? Have you ever read this?
>
>
>	http://tmgnow.com/repository/cosmology/bigbang.html
>
>	He explains a lot better than me both the absurdity of the 'big bang'
>(time-wise) and the creationist nature of it.
>
>


Shulgin is probably my favorite chemist, but he's not a physicist ;)


>> There are other
>> models, but at minimum it's an extraordinarily useful scientific
>model.
>>
>
>	how is the big bang tale 'useful'? 
>
> 

There's a difference between a 'tale' and a scientific model .

>
>> 
>> >obvious that 'cosmology' and all the pseudo philosophic charlatanry
>> >around 'quantum mechanics' is not 'real science'(TM) at all. 
>> >
>> 
>> How is it obvious that quantum mechanics is not "real science"?  
>
>	I was referring to the countless 'interpretations' of QM. Most of them
>absurd, and contradicting each other.
>
>	Then you have some phenomena and some equations that 'work', but they
>don't support any of the bullshit, cheap-sci-fi 'interpretations'. 
>
>
>
>> We don't have a working unified field theory or a quantum model of 
>> gravity, but quantum mechanic effects have been observed in a
>> variety of ways. Though, I wouldn't vouch for any of the current crop
>of so-called 
>> "quantum computers" ;)
>
>	Heh. Even the engineering side of QM includes a lot of
>handwaving...Yeah, most of the time they don't even know if the
>computers are 'working'. 
>
>	https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3192
>
>	On the other hand yes, there are phenomena related to the subatomic
>structure of matter, equations to describe them, stuff that works based
>on those phenomena, etc. But that doesn't mean any of the bullshit
>about 'parallel universes' 'teleportation' 'consciousness'
>'non-causality' bla bla bla is true. 
>
>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >	
>> >> 
>> >> Anyway, it has fuck all to do with religion.  Einstein was
>ethnically
>> >Jewish, but 
>> >> he was also a genius. And an agnostic person of no particular
>> >religious 
>> >
>> >	I didnt have einstein in mind but lemaitre. But of course einstein
>> >being an european jew puts him straight into the religious
>creationist
>> >nutcase category, at least nominally. And he subscribed to the big
>bang
>> >bullshit? oh wait... =)
>> >
>> 
>> He was a European Jew - so the fuck what?  So were however many
>millions 
>> that died in the Holocaust.
>
>	....the hell has the so called 'holocaust' got to do with anything?


Nothing, just like Einstein's ethnicity has fuck all to do with his work. That's my point.


>How many people died during the two world wars? How many murderer by
>the US govt? Etc etc etc. 
>
>
>	anyway, my point stands, the big bang theory comes straight from
>jew-kristian europeans, and it is creationist bullshit like
>jew-kristianity. See shulgin. 
>
>
>> 
>> I brought Einstein up specifically because he was ethnically Jewish,
>> but he was not a religious guy.  
>> He was a scientist, and his early work
>> helped pave the way for the idea of the big bang.
>
>	right, all the nonsense about 'curved space time' paves the way for
>more pseudo scientific tales. 
>
>


So now you are saying, what, relativity is bullshit too?  Lol.  Newtonian physics don't keep satellites rotating around the earth, they don't do
shit really, if you care about accuracy.


>
>> 
>> I don't know what he thought about the big bang, although he pretty
>much hated quantum
>> mechanics ;).   
>
>	yeah, that was actually his more rational side. So I guess I could
>side with einstein on that and invoke his alleged 'genius' status? =)
>
>> 
>> 
>> The difference between all this and religion should be clear.  
>> It's based on 
>> research, math, observation. It isn't absurd dogma handed down
>> in some crappy priest-fic to dominate a certain part of the
>population.
>
>	except, the research, math and observation do not lead the the alleged
>conclusion. 
>
>
>> 
>> Should we say that giving the universe an age of 13.8 billion years
>(based on 
>> scientific shit like the big bang), or 6000 years (based on adding up
>the ages of the
>> fucking patriarchs in the bible ;) are both ridiculous fantasy
>numbers from the
>> jewish-kkkristians in charge?
>
>	yes, that's the point. Of course the current theory has a veneer of
>'science' on it. But it perfectly shows that people do not know what
>'science' actually is, and they confuse it with the worst kind of cheap
>pseudo philosophy there is. 
>
>
>	You should ask what sort of questions can 'science' answer? Mechanics
>for instance can tell you how bodies move, but it can't tell you how
>they were 'created' or where they come from.
>

Heavy atoms (heavier than hydrogen & helium) are forged in the hearts of stars.  
Stars and planets form from the accretion of matter, due to gravity. 

Where did the shit all ORIGINALLY come from? I don't know, but the big bang
is at the very least a useful model.


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>
>
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> >> faith (I think he identified with Spinoza a little bit, pantheism,
>> >which
>> >> is hard to call religious belief).
>> >> 
>> >> 
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