Cypherpunks archive description.

[jim bell]

 I feel confident we will be able to narrow down the date of the fraud, and maybe the people responsible.  We really need to publicize this.  One of the ways would be to put it into the Wikipedia article for 'Cypherpunks'.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk    One impediment is that claiming to be an 'encylopedia', Wikipedia labels itself a 'tertiary source', and likes to get information citable from 'secondary sources', books and magazines, and their modern electronic equivalents. And, it is said that those sources must be "reliable sources".  Sadly, in Wikipedia, I have noticed that applied in politically or ideologically-controversial articles this REALLY means, "left-leaning politically-correct liberal-approved sources".   
I see no reason the header of that article cannot include something like, "On Nov 1, Jim Bell and current subscribers to that list discovered a massive forgery of the email archive  of the year 1995..."    But, this would have to be backed up with a media source.
I wonder if Declan McCullagh  could be shamed into helping out.  He incompetently mishandled by story in 2002, giving up merely because (he said) I'd been convicted, so there was no story left to report.    Such a claim is obviously no longer valid.
              Jim Bell


    On Monday, November 4, 2019, 08:04:01 AM PST, Greg Newby <gbnewby at pglaf.org> wrote:  
 
 Those are the same as what I have at https://www.petascale.org/cypherpunks (other than line endings: they are not identical files, but the contents seems to be the same).

The Cryptome files are dated 2009, and the ones I have were dated 2003.

The other archive referenced below is: https://cypherpunks.venona.com/ .. I did a quick perusal of 1995/11 and the contents seem to match the two sources above.

You probably already looked here: http://mailing-list-archive.cryptoanarchy.wiki/ (the first hit in Google for "archive of cypherpunks email list"). Seems the same. Notably, 1995 has no archives for April or June 1995 in any of these three copies of the archive. So, they seem to match at a coarse grain, at least.
 - Greg

On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 04:57:43AM +0000, jim bell wrote:
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> Cypherpunks Archive 1992-1998
> John Young jya at pipeline.com
> Fri Sep 6 16:17:54 EDT 2013
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> Cypherpunks Archive 1992-1998 in raw text:
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> http://cryptome.org/cpunks/cpunks-92-98.zip (83MB)
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> By year:
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> http://cryptome.org/cpunks/cpunks-1992.zip (790KB)
> http://cryptome.org/cpunks/cpunks-1993.zip (7.4MB)
> http://cryptome.org/cpunks/cpunks-1994.zip (11.8MB)
> http://cryptome.org/cpunks/cpunks-1995.zip (10.1MB)
> http://cryptome.org/cpunks/cpunks-1996.zip (21.6MB)
> http://cryptome.org/cpunks/cpunks-1997.zip (20.7MB)
> http://cryptome.org/cpunks/cpunks-1998.zip (10.8MB)
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> Who October 26, 1996:
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> http://cryptome.org/cpunks/cpnkwho-102296.txt (34KB)
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> At 03:06 PM 9/6/2013, you wrote:
> >On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 12:13:50PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> > > On 9/6/13, CypherPunk <cypherpunk at cpunk.us> wrote:
> > > > On 09/06/2013 06:17 AM, John Preston wrote:
> > > >> I'm having trouble finding the list archives going back into the 90's;
> > > >> they're not on cpunks.org. Anyone got them?
> > > >
> > > > http://cypherpunks.venona.com/
> > >
> > > cryptome has a partial zip archive you can search for.
> > >
> > > For those that use real MUA's/search with local copies
> > > instead of crippled web indexes further subject to disappearance,
> > > and to cover time gaps and provide a canonical answer
> > > to this recurring question....
> > >
> > > I suggest people here collaborate and contribute to
> > > create a complete historical archive in mbox and/or maildir
> >
> >An excellent idea. Unfortunately, I lost my 1980s/90s
> >emails due to a shredded RAID.
> >
> > > format. Once compiled and deduplicated it could be
> > > broken out and presented by year in said formats and
> > > also loaded into mailman/pipermail.
> > >
> > > What datasets do you all have and in what formats?
> > > Can you upload and/or post links to them?
> > >
> > > I believe cpunks.org is willing to host such an archive.
> >
> >I will put up a mirror as well. mbox format is perfect.
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