[tor-talk] tor project website change

Zenaan Harkness zen at freedbms.net
Sun Mar 31 21:59:04 PDT 2019


On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 06:34:36PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
> On 03/30/2019 01:40 PM, Punk wrote:
> > On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 06:06:07 -0400
> > grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> "
> >> DEFEND AGAINST SURVEILLANCE
> >> Tor Browser prevents someone watching your connection from knowing
> >> what websites you visit. All anyone monitoring your browsing habits
> >> can see is that you're using Tor.
> >> "
> >>
> >> This is false [1], and intentionally preloaded
> >> with [use case and definitional] weasel words [2].
> > 
> > 
> > 	Good to see that there's at least one voice telling the truth. 
> > 
> > 	On the other hand, we have Mirimir's comment....
> > 
> > 	"....Tor works well enough that implementing one of the newer designs
> > seems unlikely" 
> > 	
> > 
> > 	LMAO!!!! Tor works 'well enough' mirimir? Well enough for whom? I do agree that tor works well enough though. It works well enough as NSA controlled opposition. Is that what you meant?
> 
> I mean "well enough" in the sense that nobody (as far as I know) has
> seriously started implementing one of the newer, and arguably better,
> anonymity systems. Such as ...
> 
> HORNET, a system that enables high-speed end-to-
> end anonymous channels by leveraging next generation network
> architectures. HORNET is designed as a low-latency onion routing
> system that operates at the network layer ...
> Chen et al. (2015)
> 
> ... or ...
> 
> Riffle, a system for bandwidth- and computation-efficient anonymous
> communication. Riffle addresses the problems of DC-Nets and verifiable
> mixnets, while offering the same level of anonymity.
> Kwon (2015)

DC-Net?

verifiable mixnet?



> Anyway, that statement doesn't represent my opinion on Tor's merits.
> It's just an observation on what's happened. Or what hasn't happened, as
> it were.



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