Faith In Technology [ex: Crypto GovBankCorp]

John Newman jnn at synfin.org
Wed Jul 24 15:13:57 PDT 2019


On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 05:02:13PM -0300, Punk wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 05:34:40 -0400
> John Newman <jnn at synfin.org> wrote:
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> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 04:08:39PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> > > > What's the answer to the Fermi paradox?
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> > < SNIP >
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> > I was hinting at something simpler. Namely: any sufficiently
> > intelligent life form will destroy itself 
> 
> 	why? 

It's a cynical way of looking at what seems to be a rapacious
species, who seems to have its eye on short term gains, and is
continually on the edge of unsustainable expansion or unintentional
self-destruction. 

Nick Bostrum has some other theories that aren't exactly existential
ends, but "the gradual elimination of all forms of being worth caring
about" (not talking about the simulation hypothesis).

https://nickbostrom.com/fut/evolution.html


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> > before it ever gets a
> > chance to send von neumann probes out pissing its mark all over
> > the universe.
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> 	and why would 'they' send 'probes'? And what makes you think anyone can 'send probes' all over an infinite universe?
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>  	the explanation for the alleged 'fermi paradox' looks kinda clear to me. Imperialist western assholes who have raped the whole world take for granted that 'aliens' would do the same thing with the whole universe...
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> 	however, I'd assume that intelligent beings wouldn't bother 'colonizing the universe'. So there isn't any 'paradox'. Just a self centered assumption made by some ppl. 

Yeah, I hope so. That's the positive way to think about it, and how I 
hope shit plays out - how it would have to have played out, all over 
the trillions of galaxies with billions of stars and exoplanets that 
make up the universe, over the past ~14B years. Of course, its also
possible the "Great Filter" could be something else entirely, or some
other explanation. 

Anyway, we'll likely be dead before humanity totally shits the bed, if it 
does happen, so who gives a fuck, right :)

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