How to achieve 1 meter accuracy with Android Was: Re: Dropgang vulnerabilities

[jim bell]

 My comments inline:
  " There are some clever ways to place an object at some 'secret' location and allow the recipient to find it. *HOWEVER* that hardly solves the surveillance problem. "

True.  Fortunately, America is not yet as much-surveilled as some areas, such as London.  And if the principles of this dropgang idea are followed, placing the drop in a large grassy areas, such as parks, cemeteries, then it is unlikely that the video resolution will be sufficient to provide good identifiable evidence.  
    
 "   If people's movements are tracked using video surveillance then it's possible to find out who is doing suspicious things like going to a park and picking something off the ground. 

Possible, yes.  But such video surveillance doesn't yet have enough ubiquity and resolution to identify the person, in most cases.

"And if a place in the countryside is used, then the car used to get there is tracked. AND there may be other surveillance cameras close to the location as well."

GPS jammers will be useful for that.


 "   Not to mentio, the retardphone itself, which enables the user to find stuff with 30cm accuracy AND allows the government to track its subjects with 30cm accuracy. "

Which is one reason I suggest that the person placing the drops use a dedicated GPS device, with either WAAS (1 meter accuracy) or, eventually, L1+L5 capability, with 30 cm accuracy.  Because such a device will be unlikely to have any sort of back-channel, the way smartphones usually do.  

 "   Granted, the system may work under some circumstances but it seems to me that if it were used by a sizable amount of people, then identifying those people would be rather easy."

Are the areas in which such drops would be usually placed sufficiently video-surveilled?


 "   Second : 

    The 'new system' allegedly replaces piece of shit tor with something EVEN WORSE : "

I'm not commenting about TOR.
            Jim Bell




On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, 12:57:02 PM PST, Punk <punks at tfwno.gf> wrote:
 
 
 On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 07:01:09 +0000 (UTC)
jim bell <jdb10987 at yahoo.com> wrote:

>  On 1/13/19 10:43 PM, Mirimir wrote:
> 

Dropgangs, or the future of dark markets
https://opaque.link/post/dropgang/


    I call mostly bullshit on most of that article. A couple of points : 

    First : 

    There are some clever ways to place an object at some 'secret' location and allow the recipient to find it. *HOWEVER* that hardly solves the surveillance problem. 
    
    If people's movements are tracked using video surveillance then it's possible to find out who is doing suspicious things like going to a park and picking something off the ground. And if a place in the countryside is used, then the car used to get there is tracked. AND there may be other surveillance cameras close to the location as well.

    Not to mentio, the retardphone itself, which enables the user to find stuff with 30cm accuracy AND allows the government to track its subjects with 30cm accuracy. 

    Granted, the system may work under some circumstances but it seems to me that if it were used by a sizable amount of people, then identifying those people would be rather easy.


    Second : 

    The 'new system' allegedly replaces piece of shit tor with something EVEN WORSE : 

    "...messaging services will appear that combine better anonymity for both merchant and customer" 
    
    yeah, they will appear, because of...magic. Wait for it 

    " First steps in this direction have been taken by Chinese messaging companies, Telegram and even Facebook" 

    so facebook and the CCP will provide the 'anonymous' telecom infrastructure for black markets. Rejoice! But now seriously, the author seems to be mocking his readers. 

  
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