California Penal Code 12355

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On 12/21/19, Razer <g2s at riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>> So if, say, somebody steals $10, he has to return $10
>>>> And if he refuses... then what?
>>> 	in the worst case you lost $10. Deal with it.
>> How do you retrieve, a $significant to you value, from thief who...
>> 1) has $significant, in original or convertible value, but refuses?
>> 2) does not have $significant?
>
> I always figured it would be worth the 10 to never have to deal with the
> person again.

1) See above... it's not $10 anymore, it's now respectively
scaled to "$significant to you", so it can't be dodged as triviality.

> to never have to deal with the person again.

2a) No, if there is no repurcussion, they'll likely keep coming back.

2b) Then it becomes beyond $significant to you, for which
the original question remains.

> Maybe you simply have too much shit and it NEEDS to be expropriated for
> the good of society (It you were a tribal leader you'd be slaughtered in
> your sleep for withholding from the rest of the group).

3) So now the thief has too much shit... yours and everyone else's.

And now you have an ugly circular and cyclical thieves and
slaughter society. Nice.

Now if some region is voluntarily reculturing itself into a moral
communal society, without stomping on anyone else including
voluntarys still within it, sure a commune argument could be made,
but it wasn't. The arg made was an immoral slaughterous one.