Trump's Fascism

Zenaan Harkness zen at freedbms.net
Sat Aug 31 23:17:54 PDT 2019


On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 09:44:43PM -0700, Razer wrote:
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> On August 31, 2019 6:52:46 PM PDT, jim bell <jdb10987 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 6:18 PM, Zenaan Harkness<zen at freedbms.net>
> >wrote
> >)Ahh yes, the old "but we've never seen -true- communism".
> >)"Razer", speakin like a true Marxist...
> >
> >It's amazing how many times they have failed to implement "true
> >communism".


> When the state withers away there's no one to report it and besides
> you CERTAINLY won't read about it in the NYTimes.

If you're suggesting the USSR or China (Cambodia? somewhere else?)
implemented "true communism" before "the state withered away" - name
the bloody the state!


> For instance, Libya... Libya was a successful direct democracy
> anarcho-syndicalist dream nation. The most affluent nation in North
> Africa if not ALL Africa, funding development projects for any AU
> nation that asked (cutting western businesses entirely out of
> African Development for the most part...) The workers literally ran
> the factories and local governments? People's Assemblies. Couldn't
> have THAT! al-Qaeda and NATO 'fixed' it.

IDK enough about Libya to know whether it was "true communism" -
AFAICT it was a country lead by, on the whole, a benevolent (if
extremely pragmatic/realist) dictator.

Sarkozi lied to the benevolent dictator Qaddafi, who unfortunately
could not see (((the evil within))) "the glorious West".



> Wikipedia: "The Green Book rejects both capitalism and communism,
> as well as representative democracy. Instead, it proposes a type of
> direct democracy overseen by the General People's Committee which
> allows direct political participation for all adult citizens.[7][8]
> 
> The book states that "Freedom of expression is the natural right of
> every person, even if they choose to behave irrationally, to
> express his or her insanity."[9] The Green Book states that freedom
> of speech is based upon public ownership of book publishers,
> newspapers, television, and radio stations, on the grounds that
> private ownership would be undemocratic.[7]
> 
> A paragraph in the book about abolishing money is similar to a
> paragraph in Frederick Engels' Principles of Communism.[10] Gaddafi
> wrote: "The final step is when the new socialist society reaches
> the stage where profit and money disappear. It is through
> transforming society into a fully productive society, and through
> reaching in production a level where the material needs of the
> members of society are satisfied. On that final stage, profit will
> automatically disappear and there will be no need for money."[11]"
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Book_(Muammar_Gaddafi)
> 
> The book: <https://www.marxists.org/subject/africa/gaddafi/index.htm> 

Very interesting indeed.

I cannot see Libya as "true communism" though - it was much better
characterised as a benevolent dictatorship, and from the sound of
these "green book" quotes, Qaddafi perhaps held the intention to head
towards "true communism".

Can certainly understand why (((TPTB))) had to destroy that one...


> Ps. Let me know when your Libertard friend's 'Paradises' aren't
> feudal throwbacks to the 16th century complete with 21st century
> Bushmasters to kill each other, and anybody else, off with. 
> Rr
> Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice with K-9 Mail


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