https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjHs-E2e2V4 Another good interview. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_5e-ymbRF4 Kirk Wiebe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuET0kpHoyM Bill Binney https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMIrmt9sZyY Diane Roark https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=thomas+drake