latest false flag attack?
Peter Fairbrother
peter at tsto.co.uk
Thu Sep 27 03:14:29 PDT 2018
On 26/09/18 22:24, juan wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 08:53:56 +0100
> Peter Fairbrother <peter at tsto.co.uk> wrote:
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>>> Now this does look like a fucking "major conflagration"
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hSPFL2Zlpg
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>> No. It certainly doesn't look structurally significant.
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> OK - The building is engulfed in flames but you don't call that a 'major conflagration'.
Not as in the video, especially as I thought it was scaffolding which
was burning.
Even so, it's only the outside of the building which is burning, it
isn't particularly destructive as yet.
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> Where's the scaffolding?
Mea culpa, I was confusing it with Shanghai 2010.
In the video it was most probably cladding not scaffolding burning. It
was still outside the main structure. Not structurally threatening.
Yet I included it, where I excluded Shanghai 2010 (?rc?) and this
(reinforced concrete, nice timelapse) because the fire didn't get into
the center of the building:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPCL3sNVBcM
The point of my note on Beijing TVCC was that I don't know the actual
extent of the fire. I believe that is because of Chinese reticence and
the lingering censorship.
To be included in the structurally significant category we are looking
for evidence of duration and extent. Roughly, a raging uncontrolled fire
for an hour or more, over most of several floors, ie in the center of
the building not just the exterior.
In Beijing TVCC I haven't seen evidence of a raging uncontrolled fire in
the center of the building (your video only shows a small part of the
outside of the building burning).
But I included it anyway, under guesswork, because I thought it most
likely would have been larger than we see in the videos.
I am still not sure Beijing TVCC counts. Take a look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybvp6KoVH_E
Yes much of the outside burned - but did the inside?
Also, is that very large core steel, or is it concrete? I have seen some
concrete lower parts shown elsewhere ... hmmm...
A bit of research later, the Beijing TVCC entry should read:
Beijing TV Cultural Center 2009 rc/steel
My apologies, it isn't a steel-framed building after all.
-- Peter Fairbrother
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