latest false flag attack?
Peter Fairbrother
peter at tsto.co.uk
Tue Sep 25 00:19:15 PDT 2018
On 24/09/18 13:59, z9wahqvh wrote:
> NIST report page xxxv: "[WTC7] was the first known instance of the total
> collapse of a tall building primarily due to fires."
Very roughly, in the 50 years since 1968 I have found 38 structurally
significant fires in tall buildings.
By structurally significant I mean where by my estimation there was
significant insult to the structural parts of the building from fire -
roughly, a large fire over much of several floors and which lasted
uncontrolled for an hour or more, and eg where the fire wasn't mostly on
the outside of the building.
Please don't regard these lists as in any way complete or authoritative
- it was just a quick data grab, back-of-the-envelope stuff. I surely
missed out, or got the structural material, insult or outcome wrong, on
one or two or more cases due to the rushed nature of the enquiry. Cases,
especially from Russia and China, were excluded because data was lacking
or censored.
I'd guesstimate I included over 50% of all such fires worldwide, with
their details about 70% correct. Corrections welcome, though I don't
know that I'd do anything with them other than read them.
In 8 of these cases the main structural material of the building was
steel. These are:
First Interstate Tower 1988 steel [1]
1 World Trade Center 2001 steel total collapse
2 World Trade Center 2001 steel total collapse
7 World Trade Center 2001 steel total collapse
90 West Street 2001 steel [2]
Beijing TV Cultural Center 2009 steel [3]
Plasco Building 2017 steel total collapse
Wilton Paes de Almeida 2018 steel total collapse
The remaining 30 fires were in reinforced concrete buildings. I have
marked some composite buildings where the main load-bearing structure is
concrete as rc. Where parts of the building were supported by reinforced
concrete and distinct other parts were supported by steel I have marked
then rc/steel.
Taeyongak Hotel 1971 rc
Andraus Building 1972 rc
Joelma Building 1974 rc
Campbell Shopping Complex 1976 rc partial collapse
MGM Grand Hotel 1980 rc
Las Vegas Hilton 1981 rc
Minneapolis Thanksgiving 1982 rc/steel demolished
Dupont Plaza Hotel 1986 rc
Peachtree 25th Building 1989 rc
One Meridian Plaza 1991 rc/steel demolished
UNITIC Twin Towers 1992 rc
Sarajevo Executive Council 1992 rc
Hotel Olympik 1995 rc
Garley building 1996 rc
Ušće Tower 1999 rc
Parque Central East 2004 rc/steel
Windsor Tower 2005 rc/steel partial collapse
Hajar Tower 2008 rc/steel
Bashundhara City Tower 2009 rc
Abraj Al Bait Towers 2009 rc
Shanghai fire 2010 rc
Dynasty Wanxin 2010 rc
Hanoi 2011 rc
Federation Tower East 2012 rc
Oko Tower 1 2013 rc
Grozny-City Towers 2013 rc
The Marina Torch 2015 rc
Wisma Kosgoro 2015 rc
Baku residence building 2015 rc
Marco Polo Apartments 2017 rc
[1] Fema report: "Unusually good application of fire resistive coating
helped maintain structural integrity in fire." [*]
[2] Extensive use of terracotta is said to have helped prevent collapse
[3] Chinese reticence and/or censorship makes available data uncertain
> if you want me to accept the NIST report
I don't want you to accept the NIST report. I don't think I'd accept it
myself. But I know very little about WTC7, especially compared to 1+2.
-- Peter Fairbrother
[*]
https://www.webcitation.org/query?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lafire.com%2Ffamous_fires%2F880504_1stInterstateFire%2FFEMA-TecReport%2FFEMA-report.htm&date=2010-07-13
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