Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

[ilsa]

remember when this vigor and voice wrapped around digital stories with a
light on digital freedom..the latest how to's and how where's which is what
was so endearing and attractive.
Smile

Ilsa Bartlett
Institute for Rewiring the System
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every other person."
-John Coltrane

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:53 PM, John Newman <jnn at synfin.org> wrote:

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> On January 2, 2018 6:07:37 AM EST, Ben Mezger <su at seds.nl> wrote:
> >I don't think you actually understood my point (nor did I actually
> >specify
> >it precisely).
> >
> >I did read __some__ of Jame's messages and I think it's also damn
> >pathetic
> >too. I am not taking any sides here, I just think you are both wrong
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> James is way way more wrong, by virtue of being total scum.
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> Ack, I just wasted more list bandwidth discussing this shiT
> stain... wtf is wrong with me !?
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> >about
> >personally attacking each other (or it seems like so at least) on a
> >public
> >email list on hacker culture.
> >Wether you take it as a humiliation or not, that's up to you. You
> >should
> >take it as an advice that even if someone lowers their level, you
> >should
> >not do the same and perhaps sometimes is better to give a time before
> >replying.
> >
> >Do whatever is healthier for you.
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> >On 2 January 2018 at 11:49, Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tanaka at gmail.com>
> >wrote:
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> >> On Jan 2, 2018 02:08, "Shawn K. Quinn" <skquinn at rushpost.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 01/01/2018 02:45 PM, Ben Mezger wrote:
> >> > since when did cpunk got so personal specially on a public list?
> >and
> >> > since when has cpunks become a sexual diary?
> >>
> >> Personally, I would rather read flagrant personal attacks and
> >outright
> >> pornography from Cecilia than even one-tenth of the flagrant racist
> >> (including white supremacist), anti-semitic, homophobic, and
> >dishonest
> >> spam that eminates from the like of those who I now call #$%& and
> >#$%&#$
> >> %&#$%&#$.
> >>
> >>
> >> Shawn,
> >>
> >> I thank you sincerely, but please let this topic die forever.  Ben
> >did
> >> probably not read James' messages and his personal attacks to me or
> >> purposely ignored them.  He criticized only my answers and, well, his
> >> aggressive public reaction was a really precious lesson to me.
> >>
> >> **I swear I will never try to help another unknown and foreign
> >runaway
> >> hacker, depressed enough for considering killing himself, sincerely
> >> offering my home and my personal contacts to give him some support.**
> >>
> >> He could simply give me a sincere heads up in private about my
> >messages,
> >> honestly criticizing them and their content, when, only some weeks
> >ago,
> >> contacted me in private asking about me.  I was so, really so happy
> >for
> >> knowing his personal storm was apparently finished and he was doing
> >> good...  I was very stupid.
> >>
> >> Well, not my problem anymore.  He knows very well how much I do hate
> >false
> >> and hypocrite persons and I will never trust him again.  Really sorry
> >for
> >> wasting my time last year, reading his "pathetic" private messages
> >asking
> >> for help and answering to them when he was feeling deeply sad and
> >lost.
> >>
> >> I hate the sensation of being humiliated in public for someone that I
> >used
> >> to trust, someone who used to be my friend, but it is evidently
> >**not** a
> >> problem for him, so he will not waste his time reading this message
> >and
> >> giving it an answer.  Anyway, he died for me yesterday and I think a
> >> supposed "badass hacker" knows very well how to create messages
> >filters.
> >>
> >> Wish you all a lovely day.  I will lurk for some time because it will
> >> certainly be much healthier for me.
> >>
> >> ** I am feeling really sick about hypocrite disgusting people who
> >think
> >> it's OK to post White Supremacist and Nazi content, but it's really
> >> shocking to mention sex.  It's f_cking creepy and unfair because
> >James'
> >> messages mentioning **MY** supposed sexual life can be freely posted,
> >but
> >> if I mention **HIS** sexual life, I am annoying the CP list and
> >destroying
> >> it.  Aff, deeply ridiculous situation...**
> >>
> >> D'oooh, too much stupid contradictions and drama for nothing...  ;P
> >>
> >> Take care, dear all.  Or not, your choice only.
> >>
> >> c.
> >>
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