Personal attacks etc (was Re: USA: National Security Strategy...)

[Marina Brown]

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On 01/04/2018 03:21 PM, jim bell wrote:
> On Thursday, January 4, 2018, 10:04:44 AM PST, juan
> <juan.g71 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, 4 Jan 2018 08:54:35 +0000 (UTC) jim bell
> <jdb10987 at yahoo.com <mailto:jdb10987 at yahoo.com>> wrote:
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>> On Wednesday, January 3, 2018, 7:53:38 PM PST,
>> <jamesd at echeque.com
> <mailto:jamesd at echeque.com>>
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>>>> A tiny handful of leftists did criticize the Khmer Rouge
>>>> before 1978
>> December, and got called fascists, nazis, and admirers of Adolf 
>> Hitler.
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>>> But no one academic in the entire western world, not a single
>>> one,
>> risked his tenure by criticizing the Khmer Rouge until authorized
>> to do so in December 1978.
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>>> I'm waiting to see if someone tries to contradict you!
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>> No doubt commies suck but what arch fascist donald is saying
> about commies is 100% mccarthyst propaganda. It is just typical
> americunt war propaganda with completely made up numbers.
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> I don't find that calling it "mccarthyist propaganda" is
> particularly persuasive.  We may hate Joseph McCarthy for his
> tactics, but there WERE many valid reasons to object to Communism
> and Socialism in the early 1950's.
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> As for the "completely made up numbers", which numbers do you
> believe to be valid?  I frequently say that in the 20th Century,
> about 250 million people were killed by government, including in
> wars.  Far more of those deaths seem to be caused by
> Communist/Socialist governments than by Fascist governments.  And,
> as you might recall, I was reminded nearly two years ago (from the
> Wikipedia article on Benito Mussolini) that "Fascism" is
> essentially Socialism, and probably doesn't deserve to be called
> "right wing" as many people seem to do at this point.
> 
> Jim Bell
> 

Governments seem to be one of the most effective forces in getting
people to abandon their objections to killing. Nationalism and racism
are common tools they use to convince people to kill.

Even if fascism has been less deadly than communism, i don't find that
an argument that would make me adopt fascism. After all most forms of
fascism on the planet advocate killing me.

Honestly i see the ramping up of white nationalism and things like that
as a prelude to genocide.

- --- Marina


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