"democracy" vs Monarchy - the Russian conversation

Steven Schear schear.steve at gmail.com
Sun Feb 25 17:35:13 PST 2018

It seems humanity, historically,  has always sought to replace
freedom/anarchy with a series of increasingly specialized social functions
to provide services few if any wished to perform themselves. Over time
these specialists become governments and then The State. Eventually
corruption, environmental damage or other factors lead to a chaotic
collapse and, after a time, the process repeats.

A great treatise on this is Frank Chodorov's "The Rise and Fall of Society"

On Feb 25, 2018 4:15 PM, "Zenaan Harkness" <zen at freedbms.net> wrote:

> Modern "democracy" makes its own extremely strong case against
> itself.
> "Monarchy" is just one form "benevolent dictatorship", when it works,
> but is anything but benevolent when it doesn't work.
> Hereditary monarchy consistently descends into something as bad as
> "democracy" is today.
> Personality cult worship is also a societal pathology.
> Putin actually did save Russia from total disintegration (to the
> great chagrin of Harvard's "economic shock therapy" oligarch
> creators) - and a significant percentage of the Russian population
> bemoans that Putin "did not go far enough" (in putting unethical
> oligarchs in jail for instance).
> Although the lie we've been fed for decades that "democracy is the
> worst form of government, except for all the rest" has lead many away
> from the path of critical thinking about our Western system and how
> it is used to dominate us, the truth is that this quotable quote
> contains an assumption at its core underlying that lie, which also
> leads people astray, "that government is something important,
> necessary".
> Mechanisms of conflict resolution are what's needed.
> Government is one form of conflict resolution, notwithstanding the
> tyranny of the majority/ the mob, the tyranny of the minority, and
> the usurpation of not only government, but any and every form of
> shared common delusion or collective concensus agreement - there are
> always problems to solve.
> And yes, we've never had a real anarchy, or a real libertarian or
> direct democracy.
> BUT, we have had "relatively benevolent" benevolent dictators - in
> the modern floss world, Linus Torvalds, Richard Stallman and others,
> and throughout history, some of the rulers have been, from the point
> of view of their citizens, generally, and genuinely, benevolent - not
> the majority I presume, but certainly some.
> So benevolent dictatorship - if you truly have an actually benevolent
> dictator at the top - is one of the most constructive and functional
> societal arrangements, as long as the various forms of descent into
> tyranny are successfully guarded against - hereditary right does not
> make logical sense and history shows us it readily descends into
> tyranny (old Roman empire, many Monarchies).
> One could be cautiously hopeful that Russia will carry through with
> its excellent "democratic" threat of Etherium based public ledger,
> publicly auditable national voting, and even more to eventually put
> everything to the vote - a true direct democracy (as Malcolm always
> says, at least the people would have only their collective selves to
> blame, for every law and clause).
> Now although we in The West are supremely enlightened since 400 years
> and view the world eminently objectively from unassailable glass
> towers << COUGH >>  << COUGH >>, with our deeply nuanced
> understanding and abiding and unconditional empathy for our Russian
> brothers <<...>>, we immediately understand not only why they
> (rightly I would say) view Putin as a benevolent dictator and
> somewhat of a saviour of all Russia and Christendom, but carry some
> not insignificant concern for the day, roughly 6.5 years from now,
> when Putin steps down from his benevolent dictator role.
> Our Russkie brethren have a significantly more vibrant public
> discussion (a bit unbalanced in some ways, and very different to
> what we see in the pathological Western MSM), and one which is
> naturally drawn from their very rich (as in interesting) past, thus
> the real and significant desire of a portion of the Russian
> population to return to Monarchy (see below).
> In a very real sense this shift is unstoppable, just as the Christian
> revival is unstoppable in Russia (they are STILL opening on average 3
> new churches a day, day in, day out, and have for a few years now) -
> since as some (<cough>Razer<cough>) have utterly failed to grasp,
> that which you try to (or temporarily successfully) suppress, be it
> the Huwaite Nazis or the Russian Orthodox Churches, you do nothing
> but strengthen the backlash when it comes.
> The cycle (the resolution of the existential crisis sweeping the
> globe, both Eurasian and Western) is likely not back to Monarchy, as
> the path of the awareness and realisation of sovereignty in this
> reality has gone thusly:
>   God/Creator -> Monarchs -> Man (the individual) -> _ _ _ _
> The natural or cyclical progression is something other than "back to
> Kings and Queens" - the majority simply won't give up their dawning
> sovereignty, and so some other resolution is inevitable.
> Since vesting sovereignty in the individual, in Man, has actually yet
> to be really done, that is what must eventuate, notwithstanding the
> vehement and violent opposition from the oligarchs who rabidly
> continue to attempt to suppress the sovereignty of the vast majority
> of individuals in their unbalanced and relentless pursuit of "more
> power" which journey, of itself, can never conclude except by
> suppression of everyone except for a single individual - Atlas
> Shrugged must be read for those who fail to grasp this simple
> conclusion.
> In other words, we are still in the transition from the ultimate
> power of the Earthly Monarch, to vesting sovereignty in Man, the
> individual.
> The glorification of the individual, as seen so strongly in the West,
> carries its own psychoses and societal pathologies (also seen widely
> in the West), yet before a different journey can begin, we seem bound
> to play out the present one to its conclusion - and the struggle for
> sovereignty (its true vesting in the individual) is now a very small
> step away - technologically, direct democracy is almost trivial
> today, requiring nothing more than a little leadership and collective
> will in this direction, and Russia's Ethereum-based voting looks to
> be the first solid step on this journey.
> Don't worry though - the individual quest for meaning and
> significance shall continue, and once the extreme vesting of
> sovereignty in the individual is (shortly - over the next decade)
> attained, then discovery and pursuit of the next step in the
> evolution of mankind shall begin - seeking the deepest understandings
> and experiences within the nature of our existence, consciousness and
> its source, and the mystery of the matrix of this particular
> "reality" within which we find ourselves - for want of words, that
> search for the divine, for "the Creator", for "God" - but this time
> by "going within" rather than settling for the mediation of the
> priest, the imam, or the medicine man.
> Nikola Tesla (not Nickola) spoke/ wrote quite poignantly to the art
> (science?) of contemplation and its use in the pursuit of creativity,
> knowledge, and manifestation in reality - in some ways he was quite
> the modern exemplar of this journey.
> May you find that which Soul seeks for itself,
> ** Democracy Is Fraud! - We Need Monarchy! - Hugely Popular Russian
> Priest on Top TV Show ( Dmitry Smirnov)
> https://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=
> fa2faf7034c3c3c413cb3652f&id=ab861b4fbf&e=5110f4b440
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> by Mark Boden on Sun, Feb 25, 2018
> Dmitry Smirnov is one of the best known priests in Russia and has a
> very large following. He is ubiquitous on television, radio, and
> YouTube, where his videos frequently get 100s of 1000s of views on
> his channel. (Russian only). He is a brilliant public speaker and
> excellent at debate, known for his sharp wit and quick comebacks. He
> is especially loved for his sermons, which are all on his YouTube
> channel, and is by far the most popular preacher in Russia.
> ** The Coming War to End All Wars
> https://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=
> fa2faf7034c3c3c413cb3652f&id=cd5941593b&e=5110f4b440
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> by Ed Curtin on Sun, Feb 25, 2018
> “The compulsive hatred of Putin by many who have almost zero idea
> about Putin or Russian history is disproportionate to any rational
> analysis, but not surprising. Trump and Putin are like weird
> doppelgangers in the liberal imagination.” —John Steppling, “Trump,
> Putin, and Nikolas Cruz Walk into a Bar”
> ** If America Wasn’t America, the United States Would Be Bombing It
> https://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=
> fa2faf7034c3c3c413cb3652f&id=4bf532921e&e=5110f4b440
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> by Darius Shahtahmasebi on Sun, Feb 25, 2018
> On January 8, 2018, former government advisor Edward Luttwak wrote an
> opinion piece for Foreign Policy titled “It’s Time to Bomb North
> Korea.” Luttwak’s thesis is relatively straightforward. There is a
> government out there that may very soon acquire nuclear-weapons
> capabilities, and this country cannot be trusted to responsibly
> handle such a stockpile. The responsibility to protect the world from
> a rogue nation cannot be argued with, and we understandably have a
> duty to ensure the future of humanity.
> ** The Guardian Is Right – Ghouta Is 'Syria’s Srebrenica'
> https://russia-insider.us9.list-manage.com/track/click?u=
> fa2faf7034c3c3c413cb3652f&id=fefc983c7b&e=5110f4b440
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> by Catte on Sun, Feb 25, 2018
> Simon Tisdall’s latest fact-lite, emotionally manipulative lament
> that the West isn’t doing enough to save the lovely terrorists in
> Syria makes one unintentionally accurate claim. “Eastern Ghouta,” he
> says “is turning into Syria’s Srebrenica.” We agree with him on this,
> but not for the reasons he offers in his article. Let’s remind
> ourselves about the real story of Srebrenica and the wider context of
> the break up of Yugoslavia. Srebrenica didn’t happen in a vacuum. It
> was part of the “civil war” that shattered the former Yugoslavia into
> warring regions. NATO supported the civil war and encouraged the
> secession of Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo. It saw chaos in the region
> as advantageous to its interests.
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