the tor scam - Re: AP deconstructed: Why it has not happened yet, and will not

[juan]

On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 20:44:53 -0700
Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> wrote:


> 
> Anyway, I vaguely recall proposed higher-latency mix networks that would
> be usable for browsing, remote management, etc. But I haven't heard that
> any are actually getting implemented.

	so? 

	Not sure if you are keeping track of the 'issue' here. As far as I'm concerned the 'issue' is not BROWSING THE FUCKING WEB but doing 'cryptoanarchy' 'stuff'

> 
> What have I missed?

	good thing that at least you are asking. Now try to answer your question. 


 


> Yes, basically. Tor was developed by the US military. But that's not
> likely why privacy activists embraced it.

	yes it is - 'privacy' 'activists' 'embraced' it because the fucking US military promoted it. 

	again, here's a link for you 

	http://www.monitor.upeace.org/innerpg.cfm?id_article=816
	
	that's commie 'anarchist' appelbaum who got US$ 100k per year to promote a tool used by the US govt to promote coups in the middle east. 

	




> It became popular because it
> provided a better mix of security and usability.


	yes, ask all the people who are in jail thanks to tor. Or dead. 


> >> Also very slow. And I can't imagine how it could have
> >> scaled. Although I suppose that some of the binary newsgroups did get
> >> pretty fucking huge. But anyway, overhead is a key problem with mix
> >> networks.
> > 
> > 
> > 	That's how they work as far as I understand them. So saying it's a problem really misses the point. 
> 
> What's a problem is _too much_ overhead.


	you are just bullshiting and hand waving. 


> That is, total traffic grows
> more or less exponentially with the number of users.


> 
> >> Development of the Web was part of it, I'm sure. 
> > 
> > 	Yep. And the 'culture' behind it. Allow retards to stream super ultra SHD videos. But I wouldn't like to blame the victims too much, so of course the problem is the assholes at the top who dictate how 'technology' is developed. 
> 
> Open-source software is hardly driven by "assholes at the top".

	
	what - are you referring to the fact that tor is open source? So fucking what. It is developed and controlled by military scum like syverson and the little tor mafia. Who by now must have gotten 10 MILLION DOLLARS for their 'work'.




> Trust me, dude. Stay away from Freenet. Sure, you think Tor is pwned.
> But Freenet is so pwned that I'd never use it ;) Except through Tor ;)
> It's a joke. 

	yes I agree. What you say is a joke. 
	
	You are confirming from the nth time that you are if not a paid agent, an 'amateur' one. 


> As soon as an adversary joins your network, they can trace
> data movement. So they can show that your node has handled pieces of
> illegal files, identified by hash. 

	uh yeah, that's how freenet works. You have encripted pieces of stuff that can be anything. 


> And even though they can't really
> prove that you accessed those files, they can say in court that they
> can, and you'll be hard pressed to convince a jury otherwise.


	that may be how your nazi legal system works - you can be charged with anything and convicted without proof. That's not freenet's fault. 

	anyway, it's quite funny that you robotically ignore all of tor's problems and are barefaced enough to badmouth the competition....



> I keep repeating that Tor is what we have now for working ~anonymously
> online because it just fucking is! Sure, there's JonDoNym, but it's a
> tiny network, and not many people use it. And it's not really that
> friendly to anonymity, in any case. I2P is interesting, I admit, but
> it's mainly a closed system. There are some clearnet exits, but the rest
> of I2P doesn't like them.


	are you drunk or something? Again WHO gives a fuck about 'browsing the web'? Why would  cypherpunks be interested in 'anonymously' reading the jew york times? Which is something you can do with any free vpn anyway.




> 
> So it's not that I'm saying Tor is the best, or whatever. It's literally
> that there's nothing else that's widely enough used to provide any real
> anonymity. Or at least, that I know of.
> 
> So again, what super anonymous overlay networks have I missed? I'm all
> ears :)


	maybe taking too much psychoactive substances isn't good for you. 

	go back and try to grasp what the topic of the discussion is. 




> 
> >> But even so, people who want anonymity, some of them
> >> doing illegal stuff, _will_ end up using Tor. So why not help them use
> >> it more safely?
> > 
> > 
> > 	Oh, but I do. Whenver I have the chance, I tell darm markets operators to not post their contact information on facebook. 
> 
> Is that the best you can do?


	yes. I can directly tell you to go fuck yourself. That's actually better.