Re: This new Ethereum-based “assassination market” platform could cause Napster-size legal headaches MIT Technology Review Article

rooty arpspoof at protonmail.com
Fri Aug 3 16:33:54 PDT 2018


dude - I'm not sure what you said but your a brain bro - way outta my league didn't understand a thing you said
. On that note I'm retiring from this list bye!

-------- Original Message --------
On Aug 2, 2018, 8:16 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

> God, the chaff fill concept is so dang simple - every time period T,
> send as many packets to PO(outgoing_bandwidth) to link endoint, if
> insufficient packets to send, send pseudo random chaff fill packets
> to get up to PO.
>
> That's the outgoing side.
>
> The incoming side is of course similar: over T, shape down to PI,
> dropping packets beyond that limit (+/- S 'slack' packets I guess).
>
> SIE (incoming packet shortage event): If PI is deficient, lower
> incoming rate PI (and notify endpoint of course).
>
> Rate reliability of endpoints based on SIE counts per time period
> RT (reliability analysis time period) - which might also be
> multi-layered (term?) i.e. do SIE analysis over multiple relevant
> time periods, e.g. 1s, 10s, 1m, 10m, 1hr.
>
> Simple (i.e. asynchronous) event/message protocol to request
> bandwidth, offer bandwidth in response to request, and offer
> bandwidth pre-emptively, including time parameters of duration (offer
> to guarantee rate PI/PO for T, or "best effort").
>
> Best effort might be suitable for some requestors, insufficient for
> others - make the requests you require, offer what you can, meet your
> contracts when made, rate those endpoints who fail in their
> contracts, possibly also include "allegations" (i.e. ratings as made
> by peers about other peers they've had experience - obviously
> allegations would carry less weight than personal/own-node
> experiences, yet, as in the torrent world, may well be useful to
> improve overall network characteristics.
>
> The more fundamental issue with Tor is its currently TCP only design.
>
> I2P is therefore probably a better starting point for chaff fill -
> everything else can be layered on top of ethernet, IP and/ or UDP.
>
> Good luck,
>
> On Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 04:43:20PM -0700, Steven Schear wrote:
>> I've been waiting for Loopix, or a similar, anonymity overlay to go into
>> widespread testing but it's seems to be stillborn.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018, 4:38 PM Zenaan Harkness <zen at freedbms.net> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, Aug 02, 2018 at 04:27:53PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
>> > > On 08/02/2018 04:14 PM, Steven Schear wrote:
>> > > > "Augur’s creators claim they don’t have control over what its users
>> > choose
>> > > > to do with the protocol—or the ability to shut it down. This creates a
>> > > > problem that is “endemic” to blockchain technology, says Wright, who
>> > > > recently co-wrote a book on the subject: “If you do not have a very
>> > > > concrete intermediary—i.e., a company or group of people that are
>> > running
>> > > > the marketplace—how do you apply laws and prevent that activity from
>> > > > occurring?”
>> > > >
>> > > > This is, as they say in marketing, not a problem but a feature.
>> > >
>> > > Yep. I mean, that's the fucking point!
>> > >
>> > > But I gotta say, they need to work on the anonymity aspect. The argument
>> > > that participation anonymity doesn't matter, as long as adversaries
>> > > can't attribute stuff, is weak. Look at Freenet, for example.
>> >
>> > Free speech (free from censorship and arbitrary punishment against
>> > 'speech the state does not like') depends on anonymity, which depends
>> > on the transport - e.g. localised face to face conversation on the
>> > beach (and no sand bugs in your ears), or some form of mesh
>> > networking.
>> >
>> > At the very least, for digital anonymity, trusted entry nodes to a
>> > network, some number (math math) of trusted peer nodes (if all your
>> > entry node's peers are untrusted and say kill your link
>> > simultaneously, or in symmetric semi-rapid succession, they will
>> > likely be able to correlate your communication) and chaff fill links.
>> >
>> > 'Till then... pigs ain't flyin'.
>> >
>> >
>> > > > On Thu, Aug 2, 2018, 3:55 PM jim bell <jdb10987 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > https://www.technologyreview.com/s/611757/this-new-ethereum-based-assassination-market-platform-could-cause-napster-size-legal/
>> > >
>> > > <SNIP>
>> > >
>> >
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