Makers: Open Simple LIDAR

Steven Schear schear.steve at
Thu Apr 26 22:11:00 PDT 2018

Without having open hardware designs and trusted fabs about the best you
can do is use as many discrete components as possible and FPGAs (whose
designs greatly minimize places to hide backdoors). Definitely avoid SoCs.

These guys appear to be using some of the best ideas:

On Thu, Apr 26, 2018, 9:11 PM grarpamp <grarpamp at> wrote:

> >         "we are working on encrypting the entire ledger using Intel
> >         SGX, such that no human has access to the raw unencrypted data
> >         "
> "SGX isn't perfect - life is full of tradeoffs, and I'd love to move
> to zero knowledge proofs once the technology has developed further"
> "Intel ME isn't a backdoor - it's just a secondary computer"
> "it's treated as part of the chipset so the tools for doing so were
> given to computer manufacturers, not end users."
> Right, a computer you have no fucking idea what it does,
> what's inside it, what it's software is, or how to own it.
> And you want to put money and secrets on it
> and connect it to the internet? Lol.
> Not that it matters since the entire planet runs
> on completely closed and thus untrustable
> hardware, and software, connected to the internet.
> Sane people would rather trust opensource math
> than closed hardware, or at least call out that
> their worshipped hardware is in fact... closed.
> There's just no excuse for not publicly loudly calling out
> closed shit and demanding #OpenFabs , #OpenHW .
> Instead of doing that, seems like everyone bought
> the "security is number one" kool-aid Intel spun out
> during Meltdown / Spectre / etc. Fools.
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