Cypherpunk Inadequacies / Why the 60's failed

Mirimir mirimir at riseup.net
Wed Sep 6 18:11:28 PDT 2017


On 09/06/2017 12:20 AM, John Newman wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2017, at 9:14 PM, Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> wrote:
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>>> On 09/05/2017 08:38 AM, Steve Kinney wrote:
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>>>
>>>> On 09/05/2017 12:54 PM, John Newman wrote:
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>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2017, at 9:47 PM, Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/03/2017 12:05 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:
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>>>>>>> On 09/02/2017 09:06 PM, grarpamp wrote:
>>>>>>> A "store" for SK's top 10% wealth transfer? Lol, designed.
>>>>>>> Less time hobbled on "psychedelics".
>>>>>>> More time on "revolutin".
>>>>>>> Or at least gettin hippie dirty, jiggystyle.
>>>>>>> Crypto rave, on.
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Reportedly good blotter has been available on SR etc.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On SR, then alphabay - excellent mdma also.
>>>>
>>>> These services (well, their descendants) are obviously risky as fuck. 
>>>> Better to source privately if possible.
>>>
>>> Simple rule:  Cop only from people you know, and don't eat anything they
>>> have not already.
>>
>> That is of course prudent advice :)
>>
>> However, it is possible to test unknowns safely enough. You start with
>> an extremely low dose. Perhaps 1% of the purported normal dose. And then
>> retest at higher dosages. A reasonable set of dosages might be 1%, 2%,
>> 5%, 10%, 20%, 50% and 100%. Or more, if you like.
>>
>> See PiHKAL and TiHKAL :) He started with untested compounds.
>>
> 
> There are also test kits, which can at least give you some idea
> of what you've got ..

Yes, indeed.

>> Albert Hofmann did get gobsmacked, I admit. But it didn't kill him. I
>> once inadvertently took a few milligrams of LSD. It was indeed intense,
>> but no more than some DMT experiences. Did last a lot longer, though.
>>
> 
> Whoa! Sounds like the "thumbprint" trips I've heard tales of...

It was just total dumbass. Rule of thumb: Don't dilute your acid while
stoned. But it wasn't that much more intense than one milligram, which
I'd taken intentionally on occasion. It's just that the peak lasted for
about 8-10 hours. Basically, I just sat in a chair, effectively
catatonic and non-responsive. Fortunately, people around me knew what
had happened. And nobody freaked.

> I've never gone more than a few hundred mics (a few hits 
> of 150mic shit in 90s)... but I have sat with friends who took
> mega-doses on more than a few occasions ;)
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>> "Stoned on some new potion he found upon the wall of some unholy
>>> bathroom in some ungodly hall" all too accurately describes people who
>>> buy WTF-ever from darknet vendors.  Same shit, different decade.
>>>
>>> :o/
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