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[John Newman]

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 02:43:27AM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote:
> 
> 
> On 09/25/2017 06:07 PM, jim bell wrote:
> > On Monday, September 25, 2017, 12:54:38 PM PDT, Steve Kinney
> > <admin at pilobilus.net> wrote:
> > On 09/25/2017 02:18 PM, jim bell wrote:
> 
> 
> >>Enigmail imported a public key 598CAF689C6D998F, which I would bet a
> > nickel is Jim's - but the message above returned "BAD signature from Jim
> > Bell <jdb10987 at yahoo.com <mailto:jdb10987 at yahoo.com>>"
> > 
> >>Curses, foiled again!
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, Yahoo as a email client is appearing to me to be increasingly
> > frustrating. Years ago, I recognized that it was technically incompetent
> > and hopelessly PC. ?? ??But its mail is terrible. ??
> > ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??Jim Bell
> 
> Once Upon A Time, I got so damned tired of Yahoo! "mail" that I
> registered a domain name and got a web hosting account /just/ for real
> e-mail service.  It was WAY worth it.  Shameless plug:  For hosting I
> like Pair Networks a lot.

I still use a hosting company out of my home town, in good ol'
Tejas. But I did something very similar, except I maintain all the
mailer software and the system itself. It's nice to have full control
over your domain / website / nameserver / mailserver / whatever,
if you can spare the minmimal amount of time to get it up and keep
it running.

> 
> More fun:  Thunderbird speaks POP, IMAP and lately, even integrates with
> GMail and Yahoo! if so required.  The Enigmail plugin makes crypto
> functions e-z, even has a wizard for making brand new keys, as a
> mail-oriented front end for GPG.
> 

Mutt speaks IMAP and also works quite well with a local Maildir
box, if you happen to be running it on your mail server (and it's
particularly fast with larger boxes when you've enabled header cache
- I recommend lmdb as the backend).

And it does GPG/PGP nicely with no need for plugins, just a few config
lines which can be quickly found on google.. 

Of course, it's not everyone's cup of tea, and maybe I'll revisit
Thunderbird some day.. I generally use either mutt or whatever mail
client I'm stuck with according to which phone I happen to have on me at
the time. 

> Reasonable security and reliability != difficulty and complexity for the
> end user; as far as I can tell the belief that things are the opposite
> of that is a product of 30 years of snake oil vendors disparaging
> simple, effective professional tools.

I'm sure this is true. I just like fucking around with the system :P


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