Uber faces criminal probe over Greyball s/w used to evade regulation

Vasily Kolobkov polezaivsani at openmailbox.org
Mon May 8 02:14:26 PDT 2017

[2017-05-07 16:31] Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net>
> On 05/07/2017 02:12 AM, Vasily Kolobkov wrote:
> > [2017-05-06 20:21] "Shawn K. Quinn" <skquinn at rushpost.com>
> >> Is Lyft any better? Is zTrip any better? If not, what should we use instead?
> > 
> > I bet on classical p2p systems. These have quite some road to walk
> > and definitely need all the help you can give.
> > 
> > Humans being humans, this ain't a magic pill, though the core
> > principles leave much less for them to slide back into a usual
> > corporatism/enslavement/etc.
> I would certainly prefer open-source P2P ride-sharing apps, which simply
> coordinate drivers and riders, with no central profit-stealing
> corporations. However, I don't believe that Uber or Lyft are profiting
> yet. They're relying on venture capital to build demand.

Nah, they are of the same 'sharing economy' bunch. Might do good
for a while, but it's the same dirty business after they get big
enough of a following.

> They also provide legal assistance to drivers, and pay fines.  I'm
> not sure how they deal with vehicles taken through civil forfeiture.
> So how would a pure P2P system deal that those issues?

Such issues can be addressed by the protocol. I would be cautious
about it though as it implies some sort of global consent on the
subject and anything global is a) technically involved and b) of
dubious social merits.

As a half-way alternative, it might be a system of opt-in policies
where some property gets enforced amongst participants. That's just
my speculation though.

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