Torrenting The Darknets

[juan]

On Sun, 21 May 2017 01:45:20 -0400
Steve Kinney <admin at pilobilus.net> wrote:


> Now I think you're describing Freenet.  How doth Freenet suck, let me
> count the ways...

	actually freenet seems like the best project of its kind. It's
	not garbage produced by the pentagon, and it tries to be really
	decentralized. 

> massive computational overhead was the main thing,

	I never experienced that, although it would be nice if they
	didn't use java. 


> last time I tried it which was ages ago.  It really needed its own
> dedicated box to "just work." 

	nonsense.


> But it does distribute files, increase
> the availability of more popular ones (via increased redundancy of
> storage), and is censorship resistant due to distributed storage of
> data which itself is encrypted and anonymized.


	yes, the concept is pretty 'cypherpunk'.


> 
> I think a project that aims to improve on the implementation of the
> basic ideas in Freenet could be a big winner.
> 
> :o)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Users actual use of the network would
> > be through different apps... be it submitting
> > infohashes, or compute jobs, etc.
> > 
> > Does eliminating all the reward tracking overhead
> > provide substantial resources back to support
> > free use.
> > 
> > ie: Most people and their computer resources sit idle,
> > probably more than enough to provide back whatever
> > multimedia they want to consume.
> > If true, all balances out, no need to bother track accounting
> > with "pay to play" style system?
> > 
> > I like "pay to play" as it offers at least some
> > firm guarantee to the consumer offeror.
> > 
> > But an accounting free system is more fun as in free beer :)
> > 
> > Hybrids might work too.
> > 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exabyte
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zettabyte
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yottabyte
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(data)
> > 
> > 100M users donating 10GiB slack space is about 0.93 EiB
> > of non redundant storage, excluding overhead.
> > 
> > Example, at 4x redundancy, that probably easily covers
> > lossless versions of all movies (at least 1080p)
> > and all audio (FLAC), all wikipedia, all OS and apps.
> > 
> > Approaching mini-NSA scale... not a bad start.
> > 
>