Torrenting The Darknets

Steven Schear schear.steve at gmail.com
Sat May 20 20:05:37 PDT 2017


One of the great weaknesses of torrents (and filesharing systems in general
) is the lack of mechanisms to promote persistence. That's why a group of
us (including Bram Cohen, BitTorrent and Bryce Wilcox-O'Hearn (Zooko),
Tahoe-LAFS, MNET, ZCash) created Mojo Nation. Unfortunately, Mojo failed to
get follow-on funding due to Napster. Fortunately, the idea of a publishing
model (vs. filesharing), with an internal reward system for persistence,
was independently re-discovered by MaidSafe, IPFS and ZeroNet. I hope at
least one succeeds.

Warrant Canary creator

On May 20, 2017 7:22 PM, "Steve Kinney" <admin at pilobilus.net> wrote:

>
>
> On 05/20/2017 08:42 PM, grarpamp wrote:
> > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Razer <g2s at riseup.net> wrote:
> >>> Indie films on darknets mate.
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_President's_Analyst
> >> http://torrentking.eu/movie-1967/the-president-s-analyst-torrents/
> >> http://www.demonoid.click/files/details/3552579/
> >> http://www.demonoid.click/files/download/3552579/
> >> udp://inferno.demonoid.pw:3391/announce
> >
> >> I never had much luck uploading torrents myself.
> >
> > A functional darknet "torrent" system would have at least
> > just one "tracker"... the darknet internal DHT itself.
> > You'd publish the InfoHash to whatever darknet indexes you like.
> > In this case,
> > the "infohash" is 33fc6b8baa0d74e0c0c96d33a29d11dbbce9edc1
> > and the "index" for at least this message is the cpunks list,
> > while someone might "seed" it on I2P.... I2PSnark, I2PRufus,
> > I2P-Transmission... which utilize certain backend "trackers"
> > mechanisms not necessarily all distributed yet.
>
> i2p can be called "a functional darknet torrent system," in that the
> large majority of traffic crossing that network is torrents.  The i2p
> package includes the router, a browser based torrent client and a simple
> web server.  The two biggest trackers on i2p are Postman and
> Difftracker, both are stable with good uptimes.  I was pleased to note
> on my last visit that some files I seeded and promoted there about five
> years ago are still available.
>
> I got my copy of The President's Analyst ages ago, I would seed it but
> alas, my poor overworked computer can't afford the cycles to run i2p
> alongside all the other crap I am using it for:  Graphics and video
> editing, etc.  A more "normal" user won't see a performance hit from i2p
> unless the system they run it on is already overstressed.
>
> :o)
>
>
>
> > But there still desperately needs to be a distributed storage layer
> > that long term automagically backs up the explicit "seeders"
> > which tend to be volatile. At which point the original "OP seeder's"
> > best role is then to just inserting into the storage layer and
> > walking away.
> > "Elective non OP seeders of specific torrent sets" such as with
> > all torrents in Vuze / Transmission seed list, needs to transition
> > to offering darknet storage blocks for all insertions that may happen.
> >
>
>
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