[From offlist] Re: FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot

Marina Brown catskillmarina at gmail.com
Tue Mar 28 07:02:09 PDT 2017


On 03/26/2017 07:38 PM, John Newman wrote:
> How marvelous, Dr Dipshit's treatise on modern quackery. Maybe you can submit 
> this to some journal with a small fee and get another bragging point for your CV, but
> I'm not reading it.
> 

Actually it is good reading if you want to analyse a perfect snake oil
pitch.


"So I will define it here:  Holistic Health can diagnose and cure ANY
disease"

I suppose once this is proven there will be no need for hyperbolic
cultish promotion of this medicine.

> If it quacks like a (fascist, racist, theist) duck....
> 

Ayep

> 
> cheers
> John
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2017, at 5:51 PM, \0xDynamite <dreamingforward at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Okay, since you refuse to argue on reasonable grounds, I won't respond
>> to all of your attacks which didn't have any real argument except
>> attempts to demerit the concept of Holistic Medicine.  For the sake of
>> the list, I'm going to clarify what and why an H.D. is superior an
>> M.D. which you so fondly massage their crotch for, even though you are
>> probably overweight, nursing one or more addictions, and have lost
>> some desire to live exhibitiing some low-level depression.  (This is
>> the common case for liberal Americans.)
>>
>> Holistic Health is greatly superior, even if not (to the published
>> establishment) scientifically more superior, because *logically*
>> health ITSELF is a factor of the WHOLE (hence HOListic), not the sum
>> of it`s parts (like reductionist Occidental medicine, who's glory
>> mostly goes back to the study of dead cadavers and anatomy -- those
>> who failed at making health).
>>
>> Do you get this first point (reductionist vs. holistic)?  Holistic
>> Medicine *includes* the science that reductionism has built, but also
>> includes a WHOLE other set of data:  the subjective side of health
>> (how does the placebo affect has such an effect on health, for
>> example?).  So, it *transcends* the present medical establishment in
>> everyway, except when it comes to blunt trauma, like I said, where
>> they have mastery (bone setting and wound dressing).  EVERYTHING else
>> is 100% better served via holistic medicine.  Unfortunatley, there
>> just aren't many people trained in it.  I practially had to (re)invent
>> the field, because it was awash in pseudo-science, naive spiritualism,
>> and confusions of it's own identity and the use of drugs/supplements
>> as medical aids.
>>
>> So I will define it here:  Holistic Health can diagnose and cure ANY
>> disease that Western medicine CLAIMS to cure but without invasive
>> procedures, including chemical-based ingestives (or inhalation).
>> Further, it can avoid the diseases and even mishaps in the first place
>> by creative a more holistic relationship to self, family, the
>> environment, and the divine.  I'll define this latter, for the sake of
>> arguing, as "that which transcends the human mind to grasp or
>> comprehend, but, nonetheless, exerting a force upon life itself".
>>
>> Now that wasn't so hard was it?  Is that really difficult to take or
>> understand.  Western medicine would confound you with specialized
>> language, multi-million dollar equipment, and colored pillls -- all
>> types of power you likely have already given away becuase it seemed
>> impressive, right?
>>
>> Well, America is one of the most diseased, confused, and destructive
>> nations on the planet and you and I know it.  It's on the street, it's
>> on Indian reservations, it's in abortion clinics and cosmetic
>> enhancement clinics, the larger-than-usual prison population, and it's
>> in the alarming severity of some brith defects.
>>
>> So, tell me, why do you keep arguing for THEM?
>>
>>> Do you know how a mailing list works? Your email was to me, with the
>>> list copied.
>>
>> No, it was actually addressed to Razor.  You, please, are in a state
>> of delusion, arguing with me, holding on to your last little island of
>> power that America has left you -- you're own voice.
>>
>>> Specialized language ? What specialized language would that be? Nobody is
>>> using big words here, "Doctor".
>>
>> Do you actually understand "neurology"?  No, and I know this because
>> doctors don't understand it, so how could you?
>>
>>
>>> But pain is often an accompanied symptom of terminal illnesses. Again, why
>>> should someone who is dying be forced to suffer? You're a fucking sadist.
>>
>> They're not forced.  They are feeling the weight of their life decisions.
>>
>>>>> Fuck you, you don't know shit about me or my health you judgemental
>>>>> fucking wannabe chump doctor of "holistic health"
>>
>> You've given me a lot of data by your outbursts.  Do they say
>> something about you?  About what forces run your life, for example?
>>
>>> My argument has been clear from the start: what people do in their private
>>> lives is none of your fucking business!
>>
>> But it's not private.  If you planted a tree 50 yrs ago and made a
>> table with your own hands, the table is yours, but you didn't make the
>> power in marijuana.  Something else did.  Should people be able to
>> take whatever they want and use anything as they wish?  Is that what
>> you argue?
>>
>>> Well bully for you. Did you get your law degree at the same site selling
>>> the doctorate in holistic medicine?
>>
>> No, I got it from the only school worhty of issuing one:  the school
>> of hard knocks.  Maybe you feel intimidated by people with degrees
>> when you have none, but I'm using them to educate you.  Why fight me?
>>
>> \0xd
> 
> 


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