[From offlist] Re: FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot

[John Newman]

How marvelous, Dr Dipshit's treatise on modern quackery. Maybe you can submit 
this to some journal with a small fee and get another bragging point for your CV, but
I'm not reading it.

If it quacks like a (fascist, racist, theist) duck....


cheers
John

> On Mar 26, 2017, at 5:51 PM, \0xDynamite <dreamingforward at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Okay, since you refuse to argue on reasonable grounds, I won't respond
> to all of your attacks which didn't have any real argument except
> attempts to demerit the concept of Holistic Medicine.  For the sake of
> the list, I'm going to clarify what and why an H.D. is superior an
> M.D. which you so fondly massage their crotch for, even though you are
> probably overweight, nursing one or more addictions, and have lost
> some desire to live exhibitiing some low-level depression.  (This is
> the common case for liberal Americans.)
> 
> Holistic Health is greatly superior, even if not (to the published
> establishment) scientifically more superior, because *logically*
> health ITSELF is a factor of the WHOLE (hence HOListic), not the sum
> of it`s parts (like reductionist Occidental medicine, who's glory
> mostly goes back to the study of dead cadavers and anatomy -- those
> who failed at making health).
> 
> Do you get this first point (reductionist vs. holistic)?  Holistic
> Medicine *includes* the science that reductionism has built, but also
> includes a WHOLE other set of data:  the subjective side of health
> (how does the placebo affect has such an effect on health, for
> example?).  So, it *transcends* the present medical establishment in
> everyway, except when it comes to blunt trauma, like I said, where
> they have mastery (bone setting and wound dressing).  EVERYTHING else
> is 100% better served via holistic medicine.  Unfortunatley, there
> just aren't many people trained in it.  I practially had to (re)invent
> the field, because it was awash in pseudo-science, naive spiritualism,
> and confusions of it's own identity and the use of drugs/supplements
> as medical aids.
> 
> So I will define it here:  Holistic Health can diagnose and cure ANY
> disease that Western medicine CLAIMS to cure but without invasive
> procedures, including chemical-based ingestives (or inhalation).
> Further, it can avoid the diseases and even mishaps in the first place
> by creative a more holistic relationship to self, family, the
> environment, and the divine.  I'll define this latter, for the sake of
> arguing, as "that which transcends the human mind to grasp or
> comprehend, but, nonetheless, exerting a force upon life itself".
> 
> Now that wasn't so hard was it?  Is that really difficult to take or
> understand.  Western medicine would confound you with specialized
> language, multi-million dollar equipment, and colored pillls -- all
> types of power you likely have already given away becuase it seemed
> impressive, right?
> 
> Well, America is one of the most diseased, confused, and destructive
> nations on the planet and you and I know it.  It's on the street, it's
> on Indian reservations, it's in abortion clinics and cosmetic
> enhancement clinics, the larger-than-usual prison population, and it's
> in the alarming severity of some brith defects.
> 
> So, tell me, why do you keep arguing for THEM?
> 
>> Do you know how a mailing list works? Your email was to me, with the
>> list copied.
> 
> No, it was actually addressed to Razor.  You, please, are in a state
> of delusion, arguing with me, holding on to your last little island of
> power that America has left you -- you're own voice.
> 
>> Specialized language ? What specialized language would that be? Nobody is
>> using big words here, "Doctor".
> 
> Do you actually understand "neurology"?  No, and I know this because
> doctors don't understand it, so how could you?
> 
> 
>> But pain is often an accompanied symptom of terminal illnesses. Again, why
>> should someone who is dying be forced to suffer? You're a fucking sadist.
> 
> They're not forced.  They are feeling the weight of their life decisions.
> 
>>>> Fuck you, you don't know shit about me or my health you judgemental
>>>> fucking wannabe chump doctor of "holistic health"
> 
> You've given me a lot of data by your outbursts.  Do they say
> something about you?  About what forces run your life, for example?
> 
>> My argument has been clear from the start: what people do in their private
>> lives is none of your fucking business!
> 
> But it's not private.  If you planted a tree 50 yrs ago and made a
> table with your own hands, the table is yours, but you didn't make the
> power in marijuana.  Something else did.  Should people be able to
> take whatever they want and use anything as they wish?  Is that what
> you argue?
> 
>> Well bully for you. Did you get your law degree at the same site selling
>> the doctorate in holistic medicine?
> 
> No, I got it from the only school worhty of issuing one:  the school
> of hard knocks.  Maybe you feel intimidated by people with degrees
> when you have none, but I'm using them to educate you.  Why fight me?
> 
> \0xd