[From offlist] Re: FBI Says It Can't Find Hackers to Hire Because They All Smoke Pot

\0xDynamite dreamingforward at gmail.com
Sun Mar 26 09:54:35 PDT 2017


To the list:

By the way, the only people who "need" marijuana, are those who
believe they come from monkeys (R= ~0.91).  You see, they are *taking*
the love of Creation to offset their shitty beliefs, giving nothing
back WHATSOEVER.

Marxos

On 3/26/17, \0xDynamite <dreamingforward at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 03/26/2017 08:43 AM, \0xDynamite, an intellectual dynamo
>>
>>> NOT THAT IT MATTERS, but Prozac is in fact ananti-depressant.
>>
>> With:
>>>
>>>> You mean not that it matters, because you don't have a way to argue
>>>> out of your own hole, so "repeat what I already said tactic here".
>>
>> Fact:
>>>
>>> The effectiveness of fluoxetine and other *antidepressants* in the
>>> treatment of mild-to-moderate depression is controversial. A
>>> meta-analysis published by Kirsch in 2008 suggests, in those with mild
>>> or moderate symptoms, the efficacy of fluoxetine and other SSRIs is
>>> clinically insignificant...
>
> Clinically insignificant.... <sotto voce:> for treating depression...
>
>> Lilly originally redacted a little bit in their study that showed a
>> placebo, when given by a trusted health worker with the admonishment
>> "Try this. It will help", worked as well as "Prozac" does.
>
> Placebo worked equally well for prozac's use <sotto voce:> as an
> anti-depressant...
>
>>>     The researchers obtained data on all the clinical trials submitted
>>> to the FDA ... They then used meta-analytic techniques to investigate
>>> whether the initial severity of depression affected the HRSD [Hamilton
>>> Rating Scale for Depression] improvement scores for the drug and
>>> placebo groups in these trials. They confirmed first that the overall
>>> effect of these new generation of antidepressants was below the
>>> recommended criteria for clinical significance. Then they showed that
>>> there was virtually no difference in the improvement scores for drug
>>> and placebo in patients with moderate depression and only a small and
>>> clinically insignificant difference among patients with very severe
>>> depression.
>>>
>>> The difference in improvement between the *antidepressant* and placebo
>>> reached clinical significance, however, in patients with initial HRSD
>>> scores of more than 28—that is, in the most severely depressed patients.
>
> There's a contradiction there.  It says it was clinically
> insignificant in severe depression, and then says it reached clinical
> significance in severe depression.  The researchers do not know how to
> interpret their own results.  Sorry.  If you really care about these
> issues, feel free to put them in touch with me.
>
>>> Additional analyses indicated that the apparent clinical effectiveness
>>> of the *antidepressants* among these most severely depressed patients
>>> reflected a decreased responsiveness to placebo rather than an
>>> increased responsiveness to *antidepressants*.
>
> Just because you LABEL something "anti-X" doesn't make it anti-X.  Do
> you understand?  The study is showing that it is not, in fact, an
> anti-depressant even though it is labeled anti-depressant.  I was
> referring to it's actions in the patient, not the label some doctors
> have given it.
>
>>> The press simplified it further. The MSNBC headline was
>>> "*Antidepressants* may not help many patients". The Guardian
>>> announced: "Prozac, used by 40m people, does not work say scientists".
>
> As I said, you've proven my point:  Prozac is not an anti-depressant.
>
>> Marijuana works to relieve what can only be described as "Social
>> Anxiety" (which is Zoloft's target market btw, singling out women) for
>> MANY people, unlike the so-called ANTIDEPRESSANT Prozac
>
>>... and
>> marijuana isn't even a drug. It's an herb, 'holistic boy'.
>
> This is where pot smokers are completely and psychotically delusional.
> It is an herb up to the point that you BURN it.  Just as any other
> plant.  If I burn basil or cilantro IT IS NOT A HERB.
>
>> Unless you
>> think Comfrey, Sassafras, and the raft of other herbs you lernt about in
>> assholistic skool are 'drugs' ... because they contain therapeutic
>> ingredients.
>
> Those are generally eaten raw, so they have the full benefit of the
> orgnanism that created it.  Boiling has mixed and more complicated
> reactions but isn't as severe as BURNING the SHIT OUT OF IT.  Have you
> smelled your bowl?  Smells like death, doesn't it?
>
> Now stop being idiots and help fix the world.
>
> \0xd
>



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