Public Dissentiment
juan
juan.g71 at gmail.com
Fri Jan 27 13:46:05 PST 2017
On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 15:54:41 -0500
John Newman <jnn at synfin.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Someone who doesn't buy into a particular conspiracy does not
> > > (necessarily) share any traits with the religious whack jobs that
> > > burned witches at the stake. They were driven by ignorance and
> > > religious fervor.
> >
> > Not really. Witch hunting, although a time honored
> > joo-kristian tradition, isn't driven by ignorance. It's a political
> > phenomenom (like religion itself). People who don't parrot
> > the 'community's' party line are treated like criminals, or are
> > considered 'sick' and need to be 'cured'.
> >
> > Of course, the hunters don't have any rational argument,
> > but that's not the same thing, at all, as being ignorant.
> > They are not just 'ignorant'. They are 'ignorant' on purpose.
> >
>
> Whatever, you get my point.
No, I don't get your point. What I seem to get quite well is
that you are purposedly ignoring MY point(s).
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > It seems you would like to have it both ways - denying the
> > > validity of science when it suits you, and at the same time using
> > > your own brand of scientific speculation to support a particular
> > > conspiracy,
> >
> >
> > Except I never denied the validity of science. If anything,
> > what you said describes you better than it describes me.
> >
> > The problem is that when you say Science, you are not really
> > talking about a rational search for truth, which is also
> > known as philosophjy. You are mostly talking about the
> > establishment's party line, with a 'scientific' veneer.
>
> That's not at all what I'm talking about. You aren't the arbiter of
> all that is correct.
Neither are you nor your state-funded 'scientific' mafia. And
your reply is just hand waving.
>
> >
> >
> > > again when it suits you. Either science is real, or it isn't.
> > > Hint: science and the scientific method are fucking real.
> >
> >
> > I never said that truth and rational inquiry are not
> > 'real'.
> >
>
> You've made plenty of outrageous claims - that global warming is a
> hoax,
That's an outragous claim for people like you. LMAO at you. You
are the poster child for circular 'reasoning'.
> that children can't suffer from cognitive disabilities, etc.
I never said that.
So again, disagreeing with your stupid enviro propganda that
comes straight out of your fucking americunt nazi state doesn't
make me a bible thumper.
Did I ever mention that your blind faith in state science means
you are a lot closer to bible thumpers than I am?
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Huge mistakes in medical sciences have most definitely been made,
> >
> > Mistakes? Are you referring to the 'mistakes' of the
> > 'medical' 'science' of psychiatry? As I explained above those are
> > not mistakes.
>
> There have been mistakes besides atrocities like the lobotomy.
Not mistakes. 'Curing' gays was not a mistake. And looks like
you are an accomplice of the shitbags who did that kind of
thing, by pretending they were not criminals but poor
'mistaken' altruists or something.
> Early
> experimentation with radiation, heparin adulteration out of china,
AH the evil chinese. What the fuck has that got to do with
'science', fake or legitimate?
> exploding breast implants, all sorts of toxic shit before the FDA came
> around, etc, etc.
Before the FDA came around. Spoken like a True American
Anarchist eh John. Tsk tsk. You seem to be showing your true
statist colors.
By the way, radioactive 'cures' were aproved by your
Progressive Scientifc Anarchist FDA.
>
> >
> > And if you believe that rational inquiry can lead to that
> > sort of 'mistake' you don't really understand what rational inquiry
> > is, and you are in no position to lecture me or anynody else
> > about 'science'.
> >
>
> Rational inquiry is what leads to the correction of mistakes. I would
> think that is obvious.
>
What is obvious to me is that you are either unable to
understand what I'm saying, or ignoring it on purpose. I think
it's more the later than the former.
> >
> >
> > > but
> > > they tend to be self correcting over time. That's how science
> > > works.
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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