Re: Google’s Artificial Intelligence Getting ‘Greedy,’ ‘Aggressive’

[Mirimir]

On 02/16/2017 04:21 AM, John Newman wrote:
> 
> 
> On Feb 16, 2017, at 4:40 AM, grarpamp <grarpamp at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>>        "Why the Future Doesn’t Need Us"
>>>        https://www.wired.com/2000/04/joy-2
>>
>> The closing from above...
>> "Whether we are to succeed or fail,
>> to survive or fall victim to these technologies,
>> is not yet decided"
>>
>> True.
>> Having claimed and settled all the unexplored land
>> mass since a couple hundred years we can't
>> just run and migrate away from conflict.
>> Though we not yet managed to nuke ourselves in conflict
>> since then, probably because, well, MAD is mad.
>> How many years since last "all in" wars frequency is safe to say
>> we learned to at least not launch complete death at each other...
>> 100, 250, 500?
>> If we make it to enlightened free global living, AI bot tech,
>> sustainability, solar, etc and it works, well there's that,
>> probably for a good long while.
>>
>> However it is absolutely certain that Earth itself
>> will fail, taking everything down with it...
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_catastrophic_risk
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_of_Earth
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth
>>
>> So there are really only two choices...
>> 1) Undertake everything we do by its contribution
>> toward getting us off the rock.
>> 2) Call our own bet, nuke ourselves today, and give the
>> next blob that evolves up out of the oceans a good run at it.
>>
>> Both meanwhile praying it isn't some space rocks
>> or aliens that do the job for good.
>>
>> If you ever get beyond safe stellar distance (maybe),
>> you've got a universe of time and space to deal with.
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_fate_of_the_universe
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe
>>
>> Transcending any of its forecast ends doesn't
>> look too easy at the moment. But you've probably
>> bought yourself a lot more time to think on it.

I recommend _Diaspora_ by Greg Egan. Escape to other branes :)

>> Who's giving odds on any of this, what are they,
>> and why?
> 
> 
> Humanity is likely fucked. It all comes down to where the great
> filter in Fermis paradox is - before us, or after us? With the
> discovery of so many exoplanets and the obvious implication that
> there are tons of planets out there in the goldilocks zone, it's
> hard to imagine the filter being before us... It isn't hard to
> imagine at all humanity fucking blowing itself up, destroying
> itself in a pandemic, just continuing to literally burn the earth
> up thinking there won't be consequences, or otherwise letting our
> tech get the best of us... This seems more likely when you start
> thinking about time scales, how young we are, and how insanely
> fast we've begun progressing. 
> 
> If we do somehow make it off Earth and out of the solar system, i
> think it's safe to assume we will no longer be human. Elon Musk
> made a kind of trite little quote which actually may turn out to
> he true (he said this after reading the Bostrom book i mentioned):
> 
> "Hope we're not just the biological boot loader for digital
> superintelligence."

Why "hope"? It seems pretty obvious that we're the boot loader for
something, given evolutionary history. So why not digital?