USA: National Security Strategy, Juan's Wet Dream

[John Newman]

On December 25, 2017 1:26:52 AM EST, juan <juan.g71 at gmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 25 Dec 2017 10:50:59 +1000
>"James A. Donald" <jamesd at echeque.com> wrote:
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>	to address the mental christian vomits of supreme right wing
>	'libertarian' donald 
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>	http://www.worldfuturefund.org/History/jesushistory.html
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>JESUS CHRIST - NO HISTORICAL EVIDENCE
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>IN ONE OF THE MOST CAREFULLY DOCUMENTED PERIODS OF ROMAN AND ANCIENT
>HISTORY 
>The time that Jesus Christ supposedly existed is one the most heavily
>documented periods in ancient history.  Yet there is virtually zero
>historical evidence of his supposed existence in any contemporary
>historical record.  It is also important to understand that an absolute
>reign of terror was instituted when Christianity seized power in the
>Roman Empire as documented in our Christian Totalitarianism Report.
>The Church appointed an official historian of dubious ethics, Eusebius,
>to write an official history.  Meanwhile, Christian launched the
>largest book burning campaign in history, destroying a vast part of the
>wisdom and history of the ancient world forever. 
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>The Account of Josephus is a Fraud
>
>When discussing the alleged existence of Jesus Christ, one piece of
>"evidence" that frequently gets mentioned is the account of Flavius
>Josephus, the famed Jewish general and historian who lived from 37 to
>100 C.E. In Josephus's Antiquities of the Jews there is a notorious
>passage regarding Christ called the "Testimonium Flavium."
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>"Now, there was about this time, Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to
>call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works,--a teacher of
>such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both
>many of the Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and
>when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had
>condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not
>forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the
>divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful
>things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him,
>are not extinct at this day." (Whitson, 379).
>
>This brief piece of evidence which supposedly contributed the best
>"proof" of Jesus's existence has actually been proven to be a fraud. It
>has been demonstrated continuously over the centuries that "Testamonium
>Flavium" was a forgery manufactured by the Catholic Church, and was
>inserted into Josephus's works. The Testamonium Flavium account is so
>thoroughly refuted, that biblical scholars since the 19th century have
>refused to refer to it, unless to mention its false nature.
>
>Dr. Gordon Stein gives a further explanation for this forgery. The
>History of Jesus: A Reply to Josh McDowell.
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>Another source is The Jesus Forgery: Josephus Untangled.
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>First Written Accounts of Jesus's Life Occur Decades After His
>Purported Existence
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>Most written accounts of the life of Jesus did not exist until a couple
>decades after his purported existence. These accounts were presented by
>a number of different authors and had somewhat conflicting stories
>about his existence. These written accounts are known as the Gospels.
>Also, it is worth knowing that not all of the gospels that were written
>even made their way into the bible. Only four gospels became the
>canonical writings for the church. The rest were burned, destroyed or
>lost. Historians estimate that the first written gospel, the gospel of
>Mark, was written sometime after 70 C.E, which means that at the
>earliest, it would have been written 40 years after the alleged
>crucifixion of Jesus.
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>PLINY, TACITUS AND SUETONIUS: NO PROOF OF JESUS
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>Nero's Persecution of Christians and Mention of Jesus is Highly
>Doubtful
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>There is widespread belief that Nero blamed the burning of Rome on the
>Christians; however, there are many holes in this theory.
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>This belief comes from the account of the Roman historian Tacitus
>(56-120 CE) about how Emperor Nero (37 - 68 CE) blamed the burning of
>Rome on "those people who were abhorred for their crimes and commonly
>called Christians." The passage then states that the fire agitators
>were followers of "Christus" who "was put to death as a criminal by the
>procurator Pontius Pilate." The passage then also states that
>Christians constituted a "vast multitude at Rome" and goes on to
>discuss the ghastly ways in which they were persecuted.
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>However, there are many troubling details about the historical accuracy
>of this passage. Some critics call into question whether Tacitus wrote
>this account at all, or if it was yet another forgery. Around the date
>of Nero's Fire, 64 AD, there were no "multitude of Christians" in Rome.
>At this time, there was not even a multitude of Christians in Judea.
>Therefore, it is highly doubtful that Nero would refer to Christians in
>this way.
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>This is also the only mention of Christians in the work of Tacitus,
>despite the fact that he wrote several volumes
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>Also, the supposed persecution of the Christians by Nero is not
>recorded by any other historian of Nero's time. If the persecution of
>Christians were really that widespread, wouldn't other historians be
>writing about it? (Truth Be Known)
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>Pliny's Letter About "Christiani"
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>In addition to the Testomonium Flavianum, there exists another tenuous
>piece of evidence that some have tried to use as proof for the
>existence of Jesus. The Roman Historian, Pliny The Younger (62-113CE),
>wrote a letter to the Emperor Trajan in 110 CE requesting his
>assistance in the proper punishment of a group of "Christiani" who were
>causing trouble and would not bow to the image of the emperor.
>According to Pliny, these Christiani would meet before daylight and
>sing hymns with responses to "Christ as God."
>
>However, this letter does not provide concrete evidence for the
>existence of Jesus as a person since it makes no direct mention of
>"Jesus of Nazareth," nor does it refer to his life. Also, there are
>many critics who have argued that this letter is a forgery. (Truth Be
>Known)
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>Suetonius's Reference to "Chresto"
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>The last piece of questionable historical evidence we'll discuss here
>is the passage in Suetonius's Life of Claudius, dating around 110 CE.
>There is a reference in this work to a figure named "Chresto" who
>caused the Jews to riot in Rome. First of all, if Jesus Christ did
>exist, it is not possible that he would have been in Rome at this time.
>Claudius reigned from 41-54 CE, this is at the time of Christ's alleged
>crucifixion.
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>LINKS
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>Jesus Never Existed
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>"Jesus Never Existed," by Kenneth Humphreys (Amazon Book)
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>Did Jesus Exist? (Huffington Post)
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>Jesus Never Existed At All (Atheism Resource)
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>The Origins of Christianity and the Quest for Historical Jesus Christ
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>The Jesus Forgery: Josephus UntangledHistory's Troubling Silence About
>Jesus
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Yes, very nice ;)

I wouldn't have bothered with my indirect reply to Jim
if I had read this first.

Cheers
John
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