Why Cryonics Makes Sense

Douglas Lucas dal at riseup.net
Fri Dec 15 00:55:36 PST 2017


Rudy Rucker on cryonics:

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Well, I’ve been friends with the cryonicist Charles Platt for about
twenty years so I’ve grown a little jaded about this. So I’ll go ahead
and give you a somewhat obnoxious answer along the lines of what I might
say to Charles. I’d much rather rot in the ground. What’s the big
problem with dying anyway? I mean, what’s so frigging special about my
one particular mind? I don’t want to be God, I want to be a human with
my spark of God Consciousness. Think of a field of daisies: they bloom,
they wither, and in the spring they grow again. Who wants to see the
same stupid daisy year after year, especially with a bunch of crappy
iron-lung-type equipment bolted to it? In my unhumble opinion, you can
never really reach any serenity till you fully accept the fundamental
fact of your mortality. It’s the great Koan that life hands you: Hi,
here you are, isn’t this great, you’re going to die. Deal with it. This
said, can cryonics work? I think dry nanotechnology is probably a
dead-end. As I argue in Saucer Wisdom, wet nanotechnology, a.k.a.
biotech, is where it’s going to be at. In other words, if you want a new
body five hundred years from now, the way to get one will be to have
someone grow one from a clone based on a copy of your DNA, not by trying
to retrofit your kilos of frozen meat. The hard part, of course, is
replicating your mind — and remember that you have somatic knowledge in
your body as well as just in your brain. I have a feeling that copying a
mind from one host to the next will require a totally new breakthrough,
perhaps along the lines of Quantum Tantra. One final jab at cryonics. We
already have too many people, so why would any future society every put
any significant energy into bringing back the dead? How much energy will
the citizens of Year 3000 care to put into producing a brand new Ted
Wiilliams? You can rant all you like about contracts and trust funds you
set up, but God know it’s a simple thing for crooks to screw a dead
person out of his or her supposedly inviolate trust fund. Enron took
down California for billions last spring, even with a seemingly living
chief of state.
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Source:
http://turingchurch.com/2013/02/23/interview-with-rudy-rucker/

On 12/14/2017 11:40 PM, grarpamp wrote:
> https://waitbutwhy.com/2016/03/cryonics.html
>  (Great blogs BTW)
> https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/knfcx/i_am_signed_up_for_cryonics_at_my_death_ama/
> http://www.alcor.org/blog/hal-finney-becomes-alcors-128th-patient/
> 
> Cypherpunks will be needed in the future, even if only to break
> out of the Matrix. Avoid info death...
> 
> 
> Imagine a patient arriving in an ambulance to Hospital A, a typical
> modern hospital. The patient's heart stopped 15 minutes before the
> EMTs arrived and he is immediately pronounced dead at the hospital.
> What if, though, the doctors at Hospital A learned that Hospital B
> across the street had developed a radical new technology that could
> revive a patient anytime within 60 minutes after cardiac arrest with
> no long-term damage? What would the people at Hospital A do?
> 
> Of course, they would rush the patient across the street to Hospital B
> to save him. If Hospital B did save the patient, then by definition
> the patient wouldn't actually have been dead in Hospital A, just
> pronounced dead because Hospital A viewed him as entirely and without
> exception doomed.
> 
> What cryonicists suggest is that in many cases where today a patient
> is pronounced dead, they’re not dead but rather doomed, and that there
> is a Hospital B that can save the day—but instead of being in a
> different place, it's in a different time. It's in the future.
> 



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