What is the value of the State?

[James A. Donald]

On 2017-05-01 10:58, \0xDynamite wrote:
> How does anarchy provide the high-level of organization needed to
> produce a car?  From ore, to smelting steel, to engineering, to
> molding, to paints, batteries, upholstery and textiles, etc?

Anarcho socialists and anarcho communists have provided vague and 
evasive answers on this question, which answers I interpret as saying 
the central planning committee will command what is to be produced and 
ration what is to be consumed, as in Soviet Russia or today's Venezuela 
and North Korea.  And if you do not produce as directed, or if you 
attempt to consume more than allotted, off to the gulag you go.

Aside from not being very anarchistic, this does not work very well. 
The planners strangle themselves in red tape and when you go to collect 
your bread ration, there is no bread.  Google Venezuela bread.

Anarcho capitalists of course have a simple and obvious solution, and, 
for a change, will actually tell you their solution:  Which is that the 
rich capitalist purchases the resources needed to build a car, purchases 
or builds the tools necessary to build a car, hires people to build 
cars, and tells them what to do.  In this model all rights are property 
rights, and if you violate someone's property rights, private security 
takes care of you.

With the rise of the reactionary right, there is now also an anarcho 
feudalist movement, which proposes feudalism with a weak king appointed 
from time to time by a board composed of or representing the 
aristocracy. Sounds awfully like an electoral republic with a restricted 
franchise, but the difference is that aristocrats make local laws and 
administer local justice.

Now I am sure that anarcho socialists can point out all sorts of horrid 
problems with other variants of anarchism, but when there is no bread, 
no one is going to worry about those problems.  The failure of socialism 
tends to be more fundamental and less abstract.