DDoS Of Things -
John Newman
jnn at synfin.org
Thu Sep 29 05:54:54 PDT 2016
> On Sep 28, 2016, at 9:14 PM, Razer <rayzer at riseup.net> wrote:
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> On 09/28/2016 10:31 AM, Sean Lynch takes the words right out of my mouth:
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>> The Internet is starting to feel a lot more like feudalism,
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> What I stated a while back about my reasons for never getting involved
> in the computer industry as a way to earn my bucks... I don't get along
> with fewdal punkz and hypercompetitive-hyperagressives reel well. So
> what did they do? They FUCKED the whole 'Fucking thing’.
You can do IT work for anbody… you don’t have to code/sysadmin/whatever
strictly for a company in the computer industry. This has been my shift
in the past few years.
John
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> Rr
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>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 8:50 PM, Steve Kinney <admin at pilobilus.net
>> <mailto:admin at pilobilus.net>> wrote:
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>> On 09/27/2016 11:21 PM, grarpamp wrote:
>>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 3:46 AM, Mirimir <mirimir at riseup.net
>> <mailto:mirimir at riseup.net>> wrote:
>>>> Yes, it's for sure a hard problem. Any entity resourceful enough to
>>>> withstand Tbps DDoS is likely a huge privacy risk :(
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>>>> On the other hand, Krebs has been totally asking for it, for years ;)
>>>> He's been going after major cybercriminals, who perhaps have major
>>>> connections with global TLAs. And he's often been a jerk about it.
>>>> Hugely self-righteous, and humorless. So meh ;)
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>>> He's already been swatted, manure mailed for lols, etc.
>>> Though being AP'd by the cybers is probably unlikely.
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>> Meanwhile the Big DDoS has apparently been mitigated by Akamai or
>> somebody.
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>> It was mitigated by Google's Project Shield. The Internet is starting to
>> feel a lot more like feudalism, where you have to swear fealty to some
>> lord or get overrun by barbarian hordes. Or, I guess, the way all
>> governments want us to feel about the world. "Bad guys" like this are a
>> government's best friend. Or a megacorp's.
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>> What bothers me is not this particular instance, but the proof of
>> concept it represents, in a world where everything from refrigerators to
>> night lights phones home. Things present a very diffuse and low-reward
>> attack surface individually, but as reflectors they provide a potential
>> solar-furnace-like effect in the hands of a sophisticated attacker.
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>> But the fact that they blew their wad early on a low-value target like
>> Krebs means that the issue will get attention. Of course, if the cost to
>> any given end user or their ISP is small enough, perhaps it won't be enough.
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>> "Physical access is game over" so it may turn out that whoever owns the
>> most Things wins after all.
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>> Ownership of Things is not permanent, though. Maintaining a botnet is a
>> neverending battle.
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