Suggestion to list admins for warning/disclaimer on the web for new subscribers

[Razer]

On 09/04/2016 04:43 PM, Steve Kinney wrote:

> I seem to be missing the real fun.  Lemme see the sabotage and
> COINTELPRO content.

COINTELPRO was the NYPD "Bureau of Special Services" aka Red Squad
getting my name off the blotter after a guerrilla theater protest (Ted K
shortly after Chappaquidick and NY Senator Abe Ribicoff) at NYU's Queens
campus and using the file cabinet/phonecall/whoknowswheretheygotitfrom
info to threaten my dad's US Army/NASA security clearance.

What fun. Everyone should experience that sort of institutional attack
because they're a 16 year old antiwar protester.... Captain Finnegan's
thugs (We called him "The Silver Fox b/c hair color and he looked a lot
like whathisname from the A Team... really.) were already at the demos
photographing protesters and singling people out for 'special
treatment'. The unit was eventually disbanded after grand jury hearings
about it's abuses. Right. Sure.

The group I was involved in ended up having three or four police agents,
informers, freelancing john birchers... including the group's
photographer. One of them was the snitch who put Sam Melville in Attica.

COINTELPRO was a REAL Barrel o' laughs... Unless ofc you were Fred
Hampton, or a number of other folks the US government simply had
assassinated with local police assistance and firepower.

Yeah... Sure ... "the real fun"

Rr


> On 09/04/2016 04:51 PM, juan wrote:
>> On Sun, 4 Sep 2016 10:33:11 -0700 Greg Newby <gbnewby at pglaf.org>
>> wrote:
> 
>>> Dear Zenaan, Georgi:
>>>
>>> Good suggestions, thanks!  I edited the list public HTML based
>>> on what's below, and also the nice Pastebin article that was
>>> posted here recently.
>>>
>>> https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo
> 
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>> "Sabotage, COINTELPRO and other forms of subversion or attack are
>> often observed."
> 
> Hum.  Examples of sabotage would be interesting to see.  Would that
> include posting links to live HTML-borne exploits against browsers or
> MUAs to the list, links to sites offering trojan installers (i.e.
> Sourceforge or worse), or jokes like advice to do "sudo rm -rf ./*"?
> One normally thinks of sabotage as attacks against physical or digital
> assets.
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> COINTELPRO was a Hoover-era FBI political warfare program, grounded in
> the proposition that U.S. Civil Rights, Anti-War and radical political
> activities in general were 5th column operations sponsored and
> controlled by communist States.  Calling today's U.S. domestic
> political warfare programs COINTELPRO is reminiscent of Conspiracy
> Theorist wannabes who call notional present-day Illuminati sponsored
> mind control operations MKULTRA (and spell it wrong).
> 
>> So you have a fair amount of clear examples of all that. Please
>> link them?
> 
> +10
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> I seem to be missing the real fun.  Lemme see the sabotage and
> COINTELPRO content.
> 
> Also, grammar nazi time:  "misdirection and control of a internet
> forum." (vs. "an Internet forum")
> 
> Overall the disclaimer seems redundant to me, and sounds too much like
> a script kiddie brag.  Posting it as a sign out front is something a
> party interested in "dilution, misdirection and control" would do to
> suggest that a forum is sponsored and populated by teenage poseurs.
> 
> An abbreviated form like this would be more than sufficient IMO:
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> "The Cypherpunks list is an unmoderated forum.  Prospective
> subscribers should be aware that the tenor of conversation is often
> contentious, offensive, and always politically incorrect.  New
> subscribers are encouraged to observe the conversation before posting:
>  Lurk before you leap."
> 
> :o)
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> Steve Kinney
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