Suggestion to list admins for warning/disclaimer on the web for new subscribers

Razer rayzer at riseup.net
Sun Sep 4 10:55:24 PDT 2016



On 09/04/2016 10:37 AM, oshwm wrote:
> Should the list really be forwarding new people to pastebin considering
> it sits behind Cloudflare?


Pastebin is using Cloudflare?

Sigh... add another to the shit list.

Rr

> 
> Or maybe the list really isn't what it used to be?
> 
> oshwm.
> 
> On 04/09/16 18:33, Greg Newby wrote:
>> Dear Zenaan, Georgi:
>>
>> Good suggestions, thanks!  I edited the list public HTML based on what's below, and also the nice Pastebin article that was posted here recently.
>>
>>   https://lists.cpunks.org/mailman/listinfo
>>
>>   - Greg
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 09:31:12PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>>> On Sat, Sep 03, 2016 at 02:23:48PM +0300, Georgi Guninski wrote:
>>>> The wikipedia page on cypherpunks have nothing to do with the current
>>>> state of this list. History gets rewritten (from experience).
>>>>
>>>> I suggest after list discussion the list admins to put a warning on the
>>>> list web page. Something along the lines of (clearly needs rewriting):
>>>>
>>>> ====
>>>> The list is not it used to be and has nothing to do with the wikipedia
>>>> page.
>>>>
>>>> The list has spooks, paid trolls, other similar whores and possibly
>>>> crackpots.
>>>>
>>>> Some of them post actively, others rarely.
>>>>
>>>> Their motivation might include:
>>>> * social engineering
>>>> * manipulating opinions
>>>> * profiting from the past reputation of the term cypherpunk
>>>> * killing the list
>>>>
>>>> "What You See is NOT What You Get"
>>>>
>>>> Use common sense when reading or posting to the list.
>>>> ====
>>>
>>> Excellent suggestion - full disclosure and pre-forewarning is highly
>>> recommended. We have a duty of care to newcomers to make sure they don't
>>> get involved in anything they might want to not get involved in, and
>>> they ought be suitably forewarned :)
> 



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