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Razer rayzer at riseup.net
Fri Sep 2 08:55:50 PDT 2016



On 09/02/2016 08:33 AM, Tom wrote:

> Obviously you've never operated an email server.

HEY YOU WIN THE FUCKING PRIZE!

I've been victimized by an op though. LOTS of people have.

Email relay operators are right in there with the "Official Observers"
on amateur radio when it comes to CENSORSHIP. Ofc THEY don't see it that
way.

Anything else bright you might care to say?

Rr


> On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 08:08:39AM -0700, Razer wrote:
>> I just took a look at the Wikipedia entry for 'greylisting'. It sounds
>> awful if you're victimized by it. My personal mail from openmailbox to a
>> friend was rejected by yahoo b/c of shit like that and I didn't get a
>> notifcation for three fucking days.
> 
> Obviously you've never operated an email server. 99% of all emails
> arriving on any bigger public mail server is spam. Of course you do
> everything to minimize spam.
> 
> Since most spam comes from bot nets which do not implement queueing as
> required by the RFCs, they are successfully blocked from delivering
> their spam with greylisting.
> 
> Of course this method blocks mails coming from mailservers whose
> operators are stupid morons and do not properly configure queueing.
> 
> So, if you're blocked because someone uses greylisting, don't blame
> them, but your mail server admin. Or stop using it and look for some
> service which respects the standards. Or do it yourself.
> 
> However - a cypherpunks member whining about email problems? Really?
> 
> 
> 
> - Tom
> 



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